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luchtzak 4th Mar 2019 12:29

Runway works in progress, suddenly an aircraft approaches ...
 
Close call for these runway workers, most likely this happened in Paraguay, still looking for date/time/airport/aircraft details.


Flying Clog 4th Mar 2019 12:41

I call baloney on this one.

Hotel Tango 4th Mar 2019 13:10


I call baloney on this one.
Maybe, but it's not in Europe or the USA from what I can tell. Crew possibly informed/aware of temporary displaced threshold but still managed to come in too low (maybe not expecting a vehicle/vehicles to be there)? "Clear the runway" communication not given/received by the work crew? Whatever, some sort of cock up, but "baloney" I not so so sure about that.

treadigraph 4th Mar 2019 13:22

Terminal and tower do look like they could be Asuncion.

c-bert 4th Mar 2019 14:33

CGI aircraft. Why would the crew just saunter off anyway?!

DaveReidUK 4th Mar 2019 14:34


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10406572)
Terminal and tower do look like they could be Asuncion.

Yes, Asuncion, happened 4-5 years ago.

Hotel Tango 4th Mar 2019 16:17


CGI aircraft
CGI my foot!

rotornut 4th Mar 2019 16:56

Remember the Cranbrook accident? Not a happy ending:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifi...nes_Flight_314

SigWit 4th Mar 2019 17:33

This seems pretty fake indeed.

luchtzak 4th Mar 2019 17:56

Not a fake, last information: Asuncion, Paraguay about 4-5 years ago.

Planet Basher 4th Mar 2019 18:45

Why would they be laying tarmac sans roller?

Thrust Augmentation 4th Mar 2019 19:08

Story possibly true, but thats just CGI BS.

Mad (Flt) Scientist 4th Mar 2019 19:37

The airport authority appears to have responded to the video as if it were real (or at least, without questioning whether it is real) - and commenting on one of the people in the video as a recognized retired employee. So unless someone went to the trouble of rounding up the original workmen, filming them, and then CGIing the aircraft into the video....

I agree that's not impossible, but it's a lot of trouble to go to ...

student88 4th Mar 2019 19:46

So you can hear the supposed wake of the passing aircraft but the flag on the vehicle doesn't change direction and the cones on the runway don't move.

It's fake.

Carbon Bootprint 4th Mar 2019 20:02


Originally Posted by Planet Basher (Post 10406836)
Why would they be laying tarmac sans roller?

ˇBienvenidos a América Latina!

Euclideanplane 4th Mar 2019 20:40

What type is that? Apart from the winglets, it could look vaguely similar to a Tu-134, it passes a little quick for me to determine. So maybe CGI after all?

jantar99 4th Mar 2019 20:53


Originally Posted by student88 (Post 10406889)
So you can hear the supposed wake of the passing aircraft but the flag on the vehicle doesn't change direction and the cones on the runway don't move.

It's fake.

Watched at speed x0.25. The flag keeps flapping steadily. Should be a fake.

TWT 4th Mar 2019 20:59

Looks like a Gulfstream to me. And I don't think it's fake.

DaveReidUK 4th Mar 2019 21:00


Originally Posted by Euclideanplane (Post 10406935)
What type is that? Apart from the winglets, it could look vaguely similar to a Tu-134, it passes a little quick for me to determine. So maybe CGI after all?

No, the fact that you can't recognise a Gulfstream doesn't strengthen the case for it being CGI. :ugh:

Capn Bloggs 4th Mar 2019 21:43

Hoskin's rule No 4 of being on the runway: keep your flashing roof lights on!

oleczek 4th Mar 2019 21:54

At 0:31 something flies off the truck (perhaps whatever they used to protect truck bed from the asphalt)

BFM 4th Mar 2019 22:30

We were taking off from Potosi (15500 feet asl) when the pilot suddenly swore and lifted as a man and burro wandered onto the runway in front of us...

Euclideanplane 5th Mar 2019 08:06


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10406950)
No, the fact that you can't recognise a Gulfstream doesn't strengthen the case for it being CGI. :ugh:

So not a RusAir (CGI) Tupolev at all. Thought so. (Sorry,could not resist :})

pilotguy1222 5th Mar 2019 08:21

Runway was notamed at the time with displaced threshold of 1000m.

Not old. This just happened and the notam is from 2019 as well.

DaveReidUK 5th Mar 2019 08:30


Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 (Post 10407270)
Not old. This just happened and the notam is from 2019 as well.

If you mean "just" in the sense of "recent", how do you account for DINAC's statement that it occurred 4-5 years ago, and that one of those workers has been retired for 3 years?


Are they lying?

sixchannel 5th Mar 2019 11:57

Camera?
 
Just ask yourselves WHY A.N.Other (workman no4??) would be getting his smartphone camera out to film his mates mundanely laying tarmac just at the precise moment the aircraft comes in to land?
Not a single reaction from the tarmaccing crew either.
Fake in my book.

DaveReidUK 5th Mar 2019 12:29

I'm confused.

All this stuff about the flag not fluttering when it should. Or was it the other way round?

No, that was the fake Moon landings - I keep getting my conspiracies mixed up.

sixchannel 5th Mar 2019 12:34


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10407483)
I'm confused.

All this stuff about the flag not fluttering when it should. Or was it the other way round?

No, that was the fake Moon landings - I keep getting my conspiracies mixed up.

Me too. And Elvis works down our Chip Shop. Honest.

MartinAOA 5th Mar 2019 12:56

If it were fake, I'd nominate the video for the "Special Effects" Academy Award. Bet this was not their first close encounter, so this time they recorded it ;)

Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10407455)
Just ask yourselves WHY A.N.Other (workman no4??) would be getting his smartphone camera out to film his mates mundanely laying tarmac just at the precise moment the aircraft comes in to land?
Not a single reaction from the tarmaccing crew either.
Fake in my book.


Hotel Tango 5th Mar 2019 13:29

sixchannel, you could say the same for many accidents that have been filmed just at the appropriate moment! My take is that the person filming was not intending to film what eventually occurred but simply an aircraft landing. The filming starts when the aircraft is still quite some way out. If it was a simple CGI spoof there would have been no need to start the sequence so soon. As for the workmens' reactions, I think they were caught up in a WTF moment probably not believing what they were seeing. South Americans are not known for being expeditious in their movements either! Again, if a CGI spoof, there was no need to continue the sequence and the landing. As for the flag, there's obviously quite a stiff wind blowing down the runway and the engines will be close to or at idle. I think the wind would win it! I have always identified CGI when I've seen it and if this is CGI then I can only say that it is of the very highest quality, even better than Hollywood can manage.

PENKO 5th Mar 2019 14:05

Nah, I think he started filming when he saw the AC on final. Think about it, the aircraft crosses the threshold 26 seconds into this video. So when the filming started it would have been at 200-300 feet finals. You might not see the aircraft initially due to the resolution of this video, but if you were standing on that runway you would have been visual with the aircraft long before the filming started.

Also, watch closely, the cameraman is not filming his mates, he's pointing his camera towards the approach area of the runway, he's actually trying to capture the approaching aircraft.
Notice how one of the workers had the presence of mind to cover his ears.. :)

FullWings 5th Mar 2019 14:08


If it were fake, I'd nominate the video for the "Special Effects" Academy Award.
Same here. This is South America, guys, not LHR. Only question mark seems to be is this a new or old video...

Hotel Tango 5th Mar 2019 15:25


Nah, I think he started filming when he saw the AC on final.
Which is what I said!

Thrust Augmentation 5th Mar 2019 18:38

Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.

The finish on the aircraft is all wrong - looks like a 1/2 minute job with kiddies watercolour.
The underside detail of the aircraft is overly dark to save rendering effort.
The windows...don't look much like windows.
Is the pilot blind - didn't notice a 4x4 & bunch of hi-vizer in the way.
Are the tarmac crew blind - didn't notice a biz jet running them down.
Does the flag, which the AC landing gear passes a few feet away from exist in a place where physics don't apply.
Why did the photographer wait so long to turn around & catch the roll - bingo, the CGI geek couldn't be bothered with the effort of rendering, especially for the reversers.

ehwatezedoing 5th Mar 2019 19:56


Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation (Post 10407821)
Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.

The finish on the aircraft is all wrong - looks like a 1/2 minute job with kiddies watercolour.
The underside detail of the aircraft is overly dark to save rendering effort.
The windows...don't look much like windows.
Is the pilot blind - didn't notice a 4x4 & bunch of hi-vizer in the way.
Are the tarmac crew blind - didn't notice a biz jet running them down.
Does the flag, which the AC landing gear passes a few feet away from exist in a place where physics don't apply.
Why did the photographer wait so long to turn around & catch the roll - bingo, the CGI geek couldn't be bothered with the effort of rendering, especially for the reversers.

We are talking about a video taken from a cell phone ffs,
Not IMAX!

And crew noticed, they bailed out of the way.

PENKO 5th Mar 2019 20:02


Originally Posted by Hotel Tango (Post 10407646)
Which is what I said!

Sorry, misread the start of your post, then we agree!

Thrust Augmentation 5th Mar 2019 20:15


Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing (Post 10407899)
We are talking about a video taken from a cell phone ffs, Not IMAX!

No FFS.... 4x4 looks real, AC looks like a cartoon - moving or not.

All I can see is a cartoon AC in a video clip & as you would expect the cartoon content has no effect on the boys from the blackstuff or their flag....

Come to think of it I've seen more realistic AC's in cartoons.




Hotel Tango 5th Mar 2019 21:58


Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.
Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely fake!

The aircraft is an executive jet. With some exceptions executive jets have pretty drab and boring corporate colour schemes. If this was a CGI fake it would have had much more impact to use an airliner. Finally, at the end of the clip the workers begin to return to where they were working. Now since we all seem to agree that they are real, what did they move away for in the first place?

JanetFlight 5th Mar 2019 22:10

FR24 geeks...here's a nice homework to do for the next couple of days »»»
(IATA: ASU, ICAO: SGAS) Search Execs and Bizz Mvt's history ;)

JanetFlight 5th Mar 2019 22:14

BTW, Paraguays CAA has just official tweeted:
t*itter.com/dinacpy/status/1102263175083380736


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