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DaveReidUK 6th Mar 2019 06:33


Originally Posted by JanetFlight (Post 10408029)
BTW, Paraguays CAA has just official tweeted:
t*itter.com/dinacpy/status/1102263175083380736

Yes, that tweet (from 3 days ago) is the one referred to in posts #13 and #25.

Squawk7777 8th Mar 2019 13:22


Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation (Post 10407821)
Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.

The finish on the aircraft is all wrong - looks like a 1/2 minute job with kiddies watercolour.
The underside detail of the aircraft is overly dark to save rendering effort.
The windows...don't look much like windows.
Is the pilot blind - didn't notice a 4x4 & bunch of hi-vizer in the way.
Are the tarmac crew blind - didn't notice a biz jet running them down.
Does the flag, which the AC landing gear passes a few feet away from exist in a place where physics don't apply.
Why did the photographer wait so long to turn around & catch the roll - bingo, the CGI geek couldn't be bothered with the effort of rendering, especially for the reversers.

This and other comments remind me of a so-called fake picture showing a SATA A310 (or A300) during a crosswind landing a couple of years ago. The prune experts had already proven this picture to be fake, when the actual photographer signed up here at pprune. The picture being debated I believe was first posted on airliners.net. The photographer posted a series of pictures of the crosswind landing which ultimately proved the fake picture statement to be a fake statement.

Machdiamond 8th Mar 2019 14:14

I don't see any evidence that this is fake (CGI and CFD background here with analysis of flow patterns of aircraft in ground effect).
This is a cellphone video with very high compression, but to me the finish on the aircraft looks right, underside has correct lighting, windows are unusual but that's the way they are on a Gulfstream, pilot not blind this is South America, tarmac crew not blind but fully aware, flag does what's it supposed to be the downwash in ground effect would push the air sideways from the centerline which is the direction the flag was already going (and besides there is a huge cardboard that gets blown out from the truck in the correct direction).
The reaction from the guys on the ground is consistent with what's happening, if a tad nonchalant (must not be the first time).
The sound is completely realistic - engine sound, gust sound.
Finally from that position there is 4800 ft runway remaining which is plenty for a G550.
Everything in this video indicates that it is real, I don't see any red flag besides the one that is on the truck.

DaveReidUK 8th Mar 2019 15:12


Originally Posted by Squawk7777 (Post 10410515)
This and other comments remind me of a so-called fake picture showing a SATA A310 (or A300) during a crosswind landing a couple of years ago. The prune experts had already proven this picture to be fake, when the actual photographer signed up here at pprune. The picture being debated I believe was first posted on airliners.net. The photographer posted a series of pictures of the crosswind landing which ultimately proved the fake picture statement to be a fake statement.

And on that occasion, to be fair, the doubters did at least apologise with good grace:

It's Breeeeeeezy

Capn Bloggs 8th Mar 2019 22:15

Looks real to me! :ok:

Chu Chu 9th Mar 2019 00:17

If it is fake, someone went to a lot of trouble, for what? Though I'd have to give the actors top marks for the way they underplayed their reactions:O

Squawk7777 9th Mar 2019 10:21


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10410622)
And on that occasion, to be fair, the doubters did at least apologise with good grace:

It's Breeeeeeezy

Thanks for posting the link, but :mad: 10 years ago? :uhoh:

arketip 9th Mar 2019 10:39


Originally Posted by Chu Chu (Post 10411078)
If it is fake, someone went to a lot of trouble, for what? Though I'd have to give the actors top marks for the way they underplayed their reactions:O

Yes, it would be the first time that someone creates and publishes a fake video(or picture) just to get clicks. ;-)

DaveReidUK 9th Mar 2019 17:03


Originally Posted by Squawk7777 (Post 10411339)
Thanks for posting the link, but :mad: 10 years ago? :uhoh:

It's not my fault if you can't remember how long ago it was. :O

But if you can find a more recent picture of a SATA A310 making a spectacular crosswind landing on airliners.net that's the subject of a thread on PPRUNe, then I'll stand corrected.

KelvinD 9th Mar 2019 17:29

Personally, I didn't doubt the video at all. After all, I was guilty of the same/similar thing in the past, particularly at Taif. When doing localizer checks I got fed up with packing up my box of tricks and leaving the runway when an aircraft approached. More than once, I remained standing at the threshold with an inbound L1011 going over my head. And I was never blown away either.


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