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kcockayne 7th Feb 2019 21:04

QFA 2 fuel Dumping
 
Just noticed QFA 2 EA380 apparently dumping fuel mid channel south of Dungeness - presumably prior to returning to EGLL. Hope everything turns out all right.

Seris1 7th Feb 2019 21:48

They had problems the day before too. Two QF2 on the same day.

KelvinD 7th Feb 2019 22:28

Seems to have landed at LHR approx 22:30

DaveReidUK 8th Feb 2019 06:19


Originally Posted by KelvinD (Post 10383605)
Seems to have landed at LHR approx 22:30

And departed again two hours later.

I suspect a medical rather than technical issue.

TWT 8th Feb 2019 07:41

Cargo door apparently

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...08-p50wgc.html

wiggy 8th Feb 2019 07:47


Originally Posted by TWT (Post 10383855)

And according to the same article:


The plane did several loops above the English Channel to dump fuel before turning back the way it came.
:eek:

timgill 8th Feb 2019 07:52

​​​​As a matter of interest, what would this incident have cost the airline?

physicus 8th Feb 2019 09:26

Well, if it's loops they did, it'll cost them a D level service... ;-) Just taking the MTOM of 560t and MLM of 368t, at the most extreme that would have set them back about 190t of fuel, about 260k liters, that would be about EUR104k in fuel cost. Could be as little as EUR 60k or so also. I doubt the crew will tell....

A better estimate could be gleaned from how long they were dumping for. According to my FCOM the A380 can dump 150t of fuel per hour.

timgill 8th Feb 2019 09:57


Originally Posted by physicus (Post 10383955)
Well, if it's loops they did, it'll cost them a D level service... ;-) Just taking the MTOM of 560t and MLM of 368t, at the most extreme that would have set them back about 190t of fuel, about 260k liters, that would be about EUR104k in fuel cost. Could be as little as EUR 60k or so also. I doubt the crew will tell....

A better estimate could be gleaned from how long they were dumping for. According to my FCOM the A380 can dump 150t of fuel per hour.

Thank you for that information; that's a very expensive door!

Right Way Up 8th Feb 2019 10:32

Wonder if the A380 ECAM is the same as the A320? i.e. if the cabin v/s is normal then it is a door sensor and you can continue.

Cough 8th Feb 2019 15:56

Guessing - 12T/hour for a <7 hour flight - 84T trip (that's 30T on the plastic fantastic!!!). Add 15T for reserves + diversion + contingency gives 100T at T/O. Given the difference between MZFW and MLW is 25T, then they shouldn't have pumped more than 75T overboard, and I'm guessing they wouldn't be at MZFW on departure so it should be less...


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