Unbelievable - family forced to sit in the aeroplane floor
 

Some would pay good money for that kind of legroom.

WOW! Well I hope the authorities investigate this.

Really? Great I'll let you sit on the floor unrestricted while in flight and ride through some unexpected CAT and see how you like hitting the ceiling and then fall back to the floor.

Yes I read the article, did you?

Only for takeoff and landing... NOT while in cruise!

Isn't it illegal for passengers on British registered aircrafts (or European registered) not to be seated in seats at all times?

Er, no. What a bizarre idea. They are allowed to go to the toilet, walk around and chat, on some airlines go and stand at the bar...

No they didn't. The adults sat on two folding crew seats for take-off and landing and then had to move to the floor as the crew space was needed for trolleys. I think that the question is, how long would it have taken them to get back to the crew seats (presumably now blocked by trolleys) in the event of turbulence?

Why then were they asked to sit on the floor for the entire flight (apart from take-off and landing)?

Thank you, that was my point.

After a recent experience of 3 hours in one of the new Y class "slim line" seats, I am not sure the floor would be any worse :ugh:

The crew were placed in a difficult position entirely due to a F*ck up by Ops and were only trying to help get the family home. The sad part is the airline is just going to throw the crew under the bus......

tangoal regarding no seats for pax ?????????? Have you gone off your meds ?

What software do they use to allocate seats for some specific flight that is not aware of the actual aircraft configuration? It can't be legal to carry passengers without a seat? No seatbelt, no life vest, but possibly pax oxygen.

My parents told me from the 1960s when on vacation in Bulgaria they were on a short flight so much overbooked that passengers (including them) had to stand in the aisle during the entire flight and one flight attendant had to sit on the lap of a seated passenger.:}

Possibly a last minute aircraft change not reflected at the check-in desk, hence the wrong aircraft map and non existent seat assignments. Accommodating revenue passengers on jump seats should be justifiable only for proven safety reasons and if no other options are available, definitely not for commercial reasons like it happened in that case, otherwise in a matter of a few more years commercial aviation will become a total circus.

Hmmm.

I wouldn't place too much confidence in the DM's ability to get any facts right. :ugh:

Nothing if he/she is entitled to use a jump seat as per the airline ops manual.


Definitely if they are not entitled, otherwise You must get a waiver from Your operator.

There's a difference between what passengers do of their own volition - and what an airline screw-up forces them to do.

TUI has already (now) offered a total refund on the entire round-trip flight - bare minimum IMHO. And my crystal ball tells me there is a meeting with the CAA (no tea and bikkies) in TUI's future. "How - exactly - can you not know how many seats are in your aircraft?!"

Not as unlikely as it sounds. The article talks about a "last minute aircraft change".

The vanishing Row 41 sounds like a 757, and the photo looks like one. TUI have a dozen or so 757s which they inherited, variously, from Britannia, Air 2000, British Airways and LTU.

I'd be willing to bet that they aren't all in the same configuration.

This procedure has been in place for as long as I can remember. I regularly used all four spare jumpseats to carry standby pax on the 767 when people were taking companions on long haul trips. To this day, my UK AOC operator has priority system in place that allocates the jumpseats in accordance with the operating crew members start date. In fact, an overbooking trial was run a few years ago whereby passengers would be compensated if they accepted the J/S.

There is nothing illegal about this when carrying either standby or full revenue passengers. Immoral maybe, but not illegal.

Totally concur with that