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chief 10th Jan 2019 21:03

Stobart Air and Virgin joining forces to buy Flybe?
 
https://news.sky.com/story/virgin-and-stobart-take-off-with-flybe-in-cut-price-deal-11604069

Any thoughts on this?
Interesting times ahead for these companies.

racedo 11th Jan 2019 00:23

Loss makers take over other loss maker.

I hear sounds of an empty can being kicked down the road.

carmel 11th Jan 2019 04:51

News regarding deal expected at 7am and word is that Flybe will be rebranded as FlyV.

compton3bravo 11th Jan 2019 06:54

It is to be called Connect Airways apparently but fly under the Virgin Atlantic brand. Bought for 2.2 million with shareholders getting 1p a share.

Wickerbill 11th Jan 2019 07:11

Its official
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46834827

22/04 11th Jan 2019 07:44

I still don't think people see the bigger picture regarding Virgin- Delta have sad that they have learnt a lot from buying into them and don't seem unhappy about it.

So -there will obviously be pruning at Fly Be. I would expect DSA and CWL to be vulnerable - and EXT at least to some extent. The new airline taking over UK regional and some LHR flying from Air France. (and gaining some LHR slots that way). SOU will largely be kept - it is profitable. - as will MAN with hub potential but I am less sure about BHX. All E175 to remain. LHR domestics to remain. Not sure about Aer Lingus flying- will IAG be happy for that to be flown by a competitor or will it go to CityJet.

There/s my twopenneth. - and it assumes VS is DL/AF/KL owned inn the main. This is Atlanta talking - it wouldn't be happening otherwise. And it will be helped by a third runway at LHR - that must factor into the thinking. Neither VS or BA want Easy there.

Riskybis 11th Jan 2019 10:59

It baffles me when people think that VS is loss making 😂😂 itís pretty obvious thatís itís a tax avoidance scheme with Delta which makes almost the same amount of profit as the whole of IAG
Heard the other day that VS/Delta is also eyeing up NAS

fast cruiser 12th Jan 2019 08:27


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10357491)
Loss makers take over other loss maker.

I hear sounds of an empty can being kicked down the road.

Well it canít be that bad as Virgin has paid my mortgage for nearly 2 decades!! 🛎🔚


racedo 12th Jan 2019 10:23


Originally Posted by fast cruiser (Post 10358539)

Well it canít be that bad as Virgin has paid my mortgage for nearly 2 decades!! 🛎🔚

Good and long may that continue.

https://www.ft.com/content/a81e071a-...e-cc62a39d57a0. However it lost £28 million in last reported Financial year and its margin when profitable is less than 1%.

Neither Virgin or Stobart are making huge profits that allow lots of cash to be invested in turning Flybe around. Flybe Plc was bought by Connect with the 2 airlines getting use of the assets. Connect Airways Ltd directors are Lucien Farrell, Jonathan Brown. Iinteresitng that Warwick Brady appointed as a Director in December and resigned 2 weeks later.

Issue and problem with Joint ventures is that all parties to it will have different agendas.

CaptainProp 12th Jan 2019 17:59


Originally Posted by 22/04 (Post 10357665)
I still don't think people see the bigger picture regarding Virgin- Delta have sad that they have learnt a lot from buying into them and don't seem unhappy about it.

So -there will obviously be pruning at Fly Be. I would expect DSA and CWL to be vulnerable - and EXT at least to some extent. The new airline taking over UK regional and some LHR flying from Air France. (and gaining some LHR slots that way). SOU will largely be kept - it is profitable. - as will MAN with hub potential but I am less sure about BHX. All E175 to remain. LHR domestics to remain. Not sure about Aer Lingus flying- will IAG be happy for that to be flown by a competitor or will it go to CityJet.

There/s my twopenneth. - and it assumes VS is DL/AF/KL owned inn the main. This is Atlanta talking - it wouldn't be happening otherwise. And it will be helped by a third runway at LHR - that must factor into the thinking. Neither VS or BA want Easy there.

As if this little project was ever going to keep EZY out of LHR?! EZY has mapped out 79 (!) routes theyíd be interested in operating out of LHR if / when third runway is ready.

CP

4engines4longhaul 12th Jan 2019 19:37

Nice one Fast Cruiser spoken like a Virgin Bloke. Been paying my mortgage for 25 years and nearly paid off. At the end of the day we are the best kept the secret

RexBanner 12th Jan 2019 21:18

Sheer fantasy to be talking about Heathrow’s third runway as if it’s going to have an impact on any airline CEO’s plan within the next twenty years.

stormin norman 13th Jan 2019 13:23

I smell a government subsidy being offered in the not to distant future.


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