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AN2 Driver 5th Oct 2018 14:52

Frankly, looking at the 2nd video I really wonder what went through their mind. They should have gone around after the fist touch (probably before even). But it sais something for the airplane that it did not break into pieces after the 2nd bounce... scary as hell. Ok, it was training but then, that means there would have had to be an instructor on board, why the hell did they not abort the landing?


#2 at least gets to score 2 kills.
You mean he killed two planes? Or two people? Is the outcome known regarding the lives of the crew? I guess the crew of the 1st plane had chances, but the 2nd one?

Bigpants 5th Oct 2018 16:11

Funny, but normally my sense of self preservation takes over when presented with a clear opportunity to kill myself in broad daylight on a 3000m long runway.

Clearly these pilots are not put off by the imminent possibility of death, impressed!.

fatbus 5th Oct 2018 20:45

Making light of a serious crash with , more than likely, loss of life is of poor judgment!

fdr 5th Oct 2018 22:11


Originally Posted by fatbus (Post 10266906)
Making light of a serious crash with , more than likely, loss of life is of poor judgment!

FB; I would contend that nothing serious was going on in either of these aircraft.

Back in the day when I was doing formation landings in small jets and stream landings in larger jets, it is standard practice for lead to offset to the cold side to ensure trail has a hot lane to use in the event of a stopping issue. That is one of the determinants whether a runway is suitable for the operations, which is also leads responsibility. It is also the responsibility of the aircraft in front to not stop on the runway or otherwise be a speed bump.

The second aircraft logged numerous landings on their attempt to break their plane. they made the point moot by trying to share the same place as #1.

One assumes the crew on these aircraft had passed some training course in basic flying, sufficient to achieve a set of wings. thereafter presumably they achieved sufficient experience in a RHS to qualify for command in said aircraft. They also presumably had training somewhere on formation, and also on landing aircraft.

There are no reported fatalities, there are two "probables" destroyed aircraft = 2/5 of the way to being an ace from Blue on Blue.

Serious crash? The planes should have had red noses on. As should AZ214, JT904, PX73, unmentionables521 etc. Nothing serious going on in front of the cockpit door on those aircraft.

Causation has changed somewhat over the years in aviation. Military aviation still loses more people and equipment in training than in combat. Civil accidents still occur from human factors, but there is a rise in failings from lack of basic competencies, to which end regulatory bandaids have had little rational basis for mitigating.

If there had been some seriousness anywhere in the event in Khartoum, then there would not have been the blooper video outcome.

cheers

Afrijet 6th Oct 2018 02:38


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 10266346)
These are Eastern bloc crews and operators in Africa. They operate completely unhindered by any rules or structure. I guess they’re enjoying their new found freedom away from whatever totalitarian regime they have back home. Sometimes I envy their insouciance.

dude, they operate that way out of afrika too.


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