EasyJet to transfer 1400 pilots licence from UK to Austria as a precaution to brexit
easyJet (U2, London Luton) has said it would assist its 1,400 pilots to relocate their licences from the United Kingdom jurisdiction to Austria as a part of preparations for the worst-case scenario no-deal Brexit, Air Transport World has reported. "Depending on the outcome of the Brexit negotiations, UK-issued pilot licenses, after the UK leaves the European Union (EU), could be no longer valid within the EU. That’s why we have worked with the UK’s Civil Aviation Authority’s and Austro Control to come up with a solution," the airline spokesperson said. |
So the chaos has started.
A prominent UK AME told me with regards to UK medicals that there would be EU approval for some of them, if it looks like a Crash Out! If I understand him right! For anyone with a UK medical and EU licence I would strongly recommend dobbelchecking ASAP. This could get crowded and ugly for some. Lets hope not! regards Cpt B |
Would their Austrian licences be valid in the UK?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10249796)
Would their Austrian licences be valid in the UK?
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Originally Posted by Negan
(Post 10249903)
Those pilots can also get a UK national licence and transfer their main licence to another EASA member state keeping both privileges I believe
At the moment the UK is still in EASA and a pilot can hold only one EASA license. UK national licenses (at least for those regulated by EASA) can not exist until the UK leaves the EASA/EU. Once left, the pilots are ICAO licensed in a third country and would have to do the same stuff every third country pilot has to do, which is write the 14 exams and prove their practical experience. Which could include simulator checks for each type they want to have on that license. As usual, that is for a no deal scenario. |
Originally Posted by Denti
(Post 10249909)
Well, no.
At the moment the UK is still in EASA and a pilot can hold only one EASA license. UK national licenses (at least for those regulated by EASA) can not exist until the UK leaves the EASA/EU. Once left, the pilots are ICAO licensed in a third country and would have to do the same stuff every third country pilot has to do, which is write the 14 exams and prove their practical experience. Which could include simulator checks for each type they want to have on that license. As usual, that is for a no deal scenario. |
This is getting stupid. I hold an Australian ATPL and a JAA ATPL and a UAE ATPL.
I could ( now retired thank God)..happily fly to any EU country I wanted to. What will stop a pilot with a UK licence fling into Europe?? it was done without too much trouble before there was an EU. ( And I lived in Europe for 17 years so I have an interest) |
We had 70 years of CAA/ARB experience and an organisational structure to handle self regulation. We don't have that capability at the moment as it is all done by EASA. Whether or not the UK CAA can entice experienced people to leave EASA and help run the CAA again remains to be seen, but if they don't start manning up soon it will be a problem. Not just for pilots, Engineers and ATCOs will be in the same boat. As will everything else the CAA used to do.
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Originally Posted by msjh
(Post 10249910)
In reality, we all know that's not going to happen. There is no prospect that flights between the UK and other countries will cease on March 30 2019.
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Originally Posted by msjh
(Post 10249910)
In reality, we all know that's not going to happen. There is no prospect that flights between the UK and other countries will cease on March 30 2019.
Personally, in the same fashion as when I am in the aircraft, I would opt for a different tactic! |
Does anyone know what Ryanair's plans are vis-à-vis pilot licencing? They're the worlds fifth largest airline with a quarter of their fleet based in the UK and have applied for a UK AOC so I'd like to know. |
Well. As far as MOL is concerned. (An EU airline with a HUGE interest in this!) He believes airlines may be grounded for a day. Or two? Ain’t catastrophe is it? |
[QUOTE=Tandemrotor;10250146] Well. As far as MOL is concerned. (An EU airline with a HUGE interest in this!) He believes airlines may perhaps be grounded for a day? Or maybe two? Ain’t catastrophe is it? So in 6 months tiime. Let’s see whether anyone here is commenting hysterically!? i suspect they are! |
Just to be clear, it’s not about being able to fly between EASA countries and UK post brexit. The question is wether or not you can fly G registered and / or EASA registered aircraft on your EASA / UK license. As far as the right to operate between EU countries and U.K. post brexit goes, this has nothing to do with pilot’s licenses. CP |
Originally Posted by Count of Monte Bisto
(Post 10250196)
This is all posturing like the ‘dreaded’ millennium bug that did absolutely nothing. It is stupid rumour-mongering by buffoons and ill-intended numpties at the EU. Absolutely pathetic and a non-event, unless you are an EU bureaucrat who wants to make problems rather than find solutions. One of the many reasons just to get out and leave them to it. You want out, this is a logical consequence. If the U.K. maintains its stubborn attitude you have only yourselves to blame. Bed, lie, in it. |
Yes, and just to be even clearer, it’s not about politics, rights agreements etc..it is about the (remote to be honest) possibility that your hard earned ATPL valid in the whole of Europe, could now be valid in ONE country only. You cannot apply for any jobs that flies non G- aircraft. You would be exactly the same as a pilot with a namibian or guatemalan licence. To even considering risking something like this requires serious patriotism! |
Why would UK not be a member of EASA after Brexit? For example, Iceland and Norway are, and they are not members of EU. And almost forgot, Switzerland, too.
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Originally Posted by Bowmore
(Post 10250274)
Why would UK not be a member of EASA after Brexit? For example, Iceland and Norway are, and they are not members of EU. And almost forgot, Switzerland, too.
Keep the uk licence and medical then! Be my guest |
Originally Posted by Bowmore
(Post 10250274)
Why would UK not be a member of EASA after Brexit? For example, Iceland and Norway are, and they are not members of EU. And almost forgot, Switzerland, too.
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Originally Posted by Bowmore
(Post 10250274)
Why would UK not be a member of EASA after Brexit? For example, Iceland and Norway are, and they are not members of EU. And almost forgot, Switzerland, too.
P.S. FS beat me to it ;o) |
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