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ironbutt57 8th Jul 2018 05:27


Originally Posted by underfire (Post 10190880)
While selling the C Series made sense for Bombardier, Embraer selling to Boeing really doesnt make sense.

All E series sales combine orders 141.
The relevant E 190 (43) and 195 (5) total 48 orders
C series orders CS100 (126) and CS 300 (276) orders to date, 402 total orders to date.


wow you're pretty good af fake news, ever think of joining CNN??

FlightlessParrot 8th Jul 2018 11:49


Originally Posted by Iron Duck (Post 10190484)
"Would be interested in hearing more about the rationale of this move from the Embraer side! Does anyone have a link to a good independent source on this?"

But duopoly? The real threats always come from unconsidered vectors. Here: https://quillette.com/2018/07/02/thr...ia-university/ a chap says: 'I had hoped sciences and engineering were somewhat insulated from the progressives. But if Media Studies students are Teaching Assistants in the College of Engineering, that means the progressives are infecting – yes, infecting – other departments than the social “sciences.” Yes, “sciences” because from what I can tell, true science has been all but abandoned in these fields. If they are truly spreading into the hard sciences and engineering, I fear for the bridges and skyscrapers n 20 years after our scientists and engineers are taught that physics and mathematics are products of the cis-white racist patriarchy and can be ignored for “your truth.”"

OMG

The '30s and '40s only had to worry about Stalinist Communists in the intelligence services, Manhattan Project, and the factories. But Media Studies majors in the Schools of Engineering!

On reflection, if modern Engineering students can't outwit Media Studies TAs, then maybe the West is doomed.

underfire 8th Jul 2018 13:37


The E2 backlog is around 350 orders, plus around 170 of the original models yet to be delivered. Where are your figures from ?
Was just showing what was online. Sorry for only showing one source, wiki. Wiki was on for C series, but a bit off on E2 series.

Embraer says the have 285 firm orders for the E2 combined 175/190/195. We were talking about the 190/195, not including the 175. The have 435 backlog for ALL ac.
C Series (now the A200), were good at 402.

underfire 8th Jul 2018 13:51


Originally Posted by BlankBox (Post 10190913)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...-Jet_operators

...better have a redo on your numbers

What does a list of operators have to do with orders?

The wiki is much closer to the numbers Embraer reports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_E2_family

and we are talking about the relevant 190/195, not the 175

DaveReidUK 8th Jul 2018 15:03

When you're in a hole, stop digging ... :O

Why is the E175 "irrelevant", by the way ? Boeing probably don't think so.

underfire 8th Jul 2018 15:09


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10191568)
When you're in a hole, stop digging ... :O

Why is the E175 "irrelevant", by the way ? Boeing probably don't think so.

It is irrelevant when comparison to the C Series. Just like adding ALL of Embraers orders compared to the C Series orders.

Did you actually read the post? Did it compare E190/E195 orders vs CS100/300 orders? Why did you add E175? Think about that hole you are claiming.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...001053ab5b.jpg


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