Originally Posted by Cynical Sid
(Post 10156307)
Wonder if they used a tub of Vaseline to ease it out.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10156451)
The photos appear to show he was being towed on to G91, which is the innermost stand in the 45° angle between International Pier G and the parking garage/International train station.
GE suggests there is approximately 120 feet between the curved yellow stand lead-in and the station piers at the closest point - half an A333's wingspan is 99 feet ... |
Originally Posted by A4
(Post 10156387)
What about a temporary attachment? You (somehow!?) attach proximity transmitters to the wingtips / tail - simple strapon or clamp - and have the prox receiver in the tug. No need to retrofit at $xx,000,000, just a local kit to get used repeatedly on multiple aircraft. You’re welcome........:p A4 |
Originally Posted by jetfour
(Post 10155862)
My Ford has efficient proximity sensors! Ok, it will be more complex on an aircraft to tug situation - but surely not impossible. Commercial opportunity for someone! |
Originally Posted by roybert
(Post 10156797)
A4 Are you suggesting that the aircraft stop on the taxiway to have these clamped on sensor installed then taxi or tow to the terminal. Not a practical solution. Some one had the proper idea with a wing walker and eyes on task.
I don't believe additional sensors are needed, just think "ground ops collision avoidance" with each aircraft transmitting it's current (GPS assisted) speed, location and orientation. A central computer could then issue alerts for AC to AC or AC to fixed obstacle proximity using a static map of the facility. For towing tugs would also need to transmit/receive warnings. The tug can probably determine (powered down) aircraft orientation using angle sensors at both ends of tow bar, that would still leave open someone entering incorrect AC type. Of course unless every baggage cart and boarding ramp was active things could (and would) still go wrong. |
Originally Posted by MurphyWasRight
(Post 10156866)
I don't believe additional sensors are needed, just think "ground ops collision avoidance" with each aircraft transmitting it's current (GPS assisted) speed, location and orientation.
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bnt
Should the tow driver follow the pair of white lines painted on the ground in front of the airplane?!? Maybe they're there for a reason... |
Looking at the image from the car park, which shows the alignment of the towing vehicle pretty clearly, I'm wondering whether the driver / wing walkers understood the phenomenon of 'swept wing growth'?
When the VC10 entered RAF service, there were a lot of educational posters showing the hazards associated with towing swept wing aircraft.... Training? |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10157166)
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Training? |
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles
(Post 10156948)
Should the tow driver follow the pair of white lines painted on the ground in front of the airplane?!?
Maybe they're there for a reason... As a general rule, white lines are for landlubbers, yellow ones are for aircraft. Here's G91, courtesy of GE: |
Crikey! Going to need no. 1 man ( oops, or woman or in-between ) driving the tug to get a wide-body out of there unscathed.
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Or maybe someone who wasn't flipping burgers last week.
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DavidReidUK
Thank you for the explanation. I stand corrected. |
Originally Posted by roybert
(Post 10156797)
A4 Are you suggesting that the aircraft stop on the taxiway to have these clamped on sensor installed then taxi or tow to the terminal. Not a practical solution. Some one had the proper idea with a wing walker and eyes on task.
I thought possibly a semi autonomous quadcopter. It hovers 100 feet above the aircraft and acts as a remote camera platform for manoevours in tight spaces. |
Originally Posted by c_coder
(Post 10158834)
I thought possibly a semi autonomous quadcopter. It hovers 100 feet above the aircraft and acts as a remote camera platform for manoevours in tight spaces.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10157234)
Here's G91, courtesy of GE: That centreline track for the stand has to be the daftest one i have seen - not surprised that they have accidents. If you want to put in zigzag lines like that then best you restrict the stand to narrowbodies. |
I assume it has been moved?
If so, how did they do it? |
Originally Posted by Chris2303
(Post 10159163)
I assume it has been moved?
If so, how did they do it? Aircraft returned to Dublin on the day following the incident. |
Maybe winglets are a MEL Item
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus
(Post 10159345)
Maybe winglets are a MEL Item
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