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ATC Watcher 2nd May 2016 19:57

Turkish Airlines off runway in Pristina
 
Just heard this .apparently no injuries.
BREAKING Turkish Airlines #TK1019 ran out of runway at Pristina (Kosovo) | AIRLIVE.net

Cloud1 2nd May 2016 20:55

Were they using the chutes? It's hard to tell but all I can see once again is passengers carrying their friggin hand luggage

Ancient Mariner 2nd May 2016 21:05

I have to say I'm more concerned about pilots running their aircraft off runways than pax carrying their luggage off aircrafts.

SMT Member 2nd May 2016 21:10

If you watch the video in the link, you'll see one of the passengers being a good netizen, recording his walk down a set of stair with his selfie stick for direct upload to the innerweb. Wearing a plastic bag on his head ...

Haven't TK seen a fair share of overrun events lately?

readywhenreaching 2nd May 2016 22:51

jacdec.de
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChfDyhzWkAAJs7_.jpg

EDDT 3rd May 2016 00:20

Haven't TK seen a fair share of overrun events lately?

- Reminds me of Onur Air 330 in Nürnberg, Germany just days ago.

cucuotto 3rd May 2016 04:54

Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride...very dangerous if summed to the overall training mayhem and rushed expansion...not my carrier of choice..from experience.

lederhosen 3rd May 2016 06:20

It will be interesting to find out what the actual wind was at the time. Looks like they flew the VOR35, which is a fun approach if you know it, but easy to get wrong if you don't. With a bit of tailwind and rain things can get a bit tricky. I have had more go-arounds there than anywhere else due to the wind being out of limits on final. To be fair to the tower the mountains all around do affect the wind. Mornings you tend to get the ILS17 swinging round to the VOR35 in the afternoon and then back again in the evening. They may just have skidded while taxying off. But if it was a genuine overrun then the combination of airport, airline and other factors add up.

sabenaboy 3rd May 2016 07:03


Originally Posted by cucuotto
Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride...very dangerous if summed to the overall training mayhem and rushed expansion...not my carrier of choice..from experience.

I tend to agree...
THY A343 at Antananarivo on Jan 9th 2016, touched down short of runway
THY A333 at Kathmandu on Mar 4th 2015, runway excursion and nose gear collapse
THY B738 at Birmingham on Oct 24th 2015, tail strike indication
THY B738 at Sarajevo on Jun 3rd 2015, burst two main tyres on landing
THY A320 at Istanbul on Apr 25th 2015, hard landing, go-around, engine problem, gear problem, gear collapse, runway excursion
...

I will avoid them if I can.

SMT Member 3rd May 2016 15:24

Scary reading, sabenaboy, not less so if we add the AMS accident to the pile.

Perhaps it would be best, if TK was given some time to cool down and think about things. For instance by excusing them from EU airspace for a few months, while they get their sh1t sorted.

They are on my avoid list too.

lomapaseo 3rd May 2016 18:03

They may need a visit by the joint air safety team from Boeing and Airbus. These guys are pretty good at pointing to lessons learned without the need for regulators with large painting brushes

Sunamer 3rd May 2016 18:41


They may need a visit
The problem is, that the visit is not mandatory, hence it is unlikely to happen.

captplaystation 3rd May 2016 21:21

As Europe is about to be "open house" to them I guess we can look forward to further expansion of their European network as passenger figures increase (at least on North & West bound sectors :rolleyes: )

lomapaseo 3rd May 2016 21:27


The problem is, that the visit is not mandatory, hence it is unlikely to happen.
extremely likely without fanfare if the data is confirmed

PJ2 4th May 2016 11:10

Has TK passed an IOSA and if so, does anyone know when the last one was?

TypeIV 4th May 2016 14:17

Yep, they have, dunno when the last one was though.

silvertate 5th May 2016 08:15


Originally Posted by cucuotto (Post 9364235)
Not surprised..loads of kiddo captain no background that think they can learn flying by rote plus a kind of immature arrogant pride....

Sums it up nicely. After a similar slide at XXX (not in the list above) I was told by a senior training captain that: "No Turkish pilot has ever made a mistake....". Apart from sliding off the runway, of course. (Apparently, that was the fault of Boeing, because if you do a real greaser landing in a Boeing, the gear always collapses... Seriously.)

TypeIV 5th May 2016 10:55

Hard landing in Tblisi with A/C grounded today and brake units toasted in Hatay yesterday upon landing on another A/C.

Flying Clog 5th May 2016 11:37

I'm noticing a bit of a trend here.

I think I'll avoid this lot thank you very much.

Doors to Automatic 5th May 2016 12:31

Does anyone know details of the Pristina incident yet? Touchdown point, speed etc.


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