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Does it have PEPSI on the side?
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
Let's not turn this into the usual A v B fight ladies & gentlemen
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A good reliable income producing airframe for Boeing.
Same crappy cockpit with the eh same crappy seats with the 787 displays. Gee wiz. |
The split winglet is available on current 737 - or at least the 800.
Southwest in the states were the first to get them. Quite a few Thomson 737-8 aircraft have them in the UK |
Both aircraft will be better than their predecessors Sure, it's a nice aircraft to fly, but not for the ranges it's being able now thanks to the lower and lower fuel consumption. I don't envy guys flying BBJ, not even a bit. |
split scimitar differs from MAX winglet
The split scimitar second generation winglet which has recently been appearing as retrofits on Boeing NG 737s (especially Southwest and United -800 models) differs appreciably from the split winglet on the 737 MAX.
The angles are not the same, precluding detailed comparison, but you can still tell these are not the same MAX split winglet: http://www.b737.org.uk/images/winglet-at.jpg Split scimitar now available for 737-700, 800, 900, and BBJ http://www.b737.org.uk/images/winglet-splitscimitar.jpg |
Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic
(Post 9253671)
Does anyone know if the new Max8 will have slower landing speed than the current -800? The latter lands very fast especially at Flap 30 - 148kts typically.
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser
(Post 9254146)
Boeing currently projects Vref of 149 kts, Flaps 30 at MLGW.
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I actually prefer the higher vref speeds, never flown the 737 but the higher approach speeds on the 757-300 and 767-400 made for a more stable
aircraft in gusty winds that went where you put it. A light 757-200 handles like a kite in strong winds at those much lower approach speeds, it gets blown all over the place, flaps 25 helped a lot though :ok: |
Wish Boeing would retro the 727, ahh now that would be the dream machine. It would solve the ETOPS issues!
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Stilton: I have flown both 737/738 and 752/753 and found the 757s to be more stable in gusty winds at normal landing weights despite having lower speeds than the 737, except a light 752 like you mention. Agreed on the flaps 25, always works like a charm
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McDonnell's business model ended Douglas Aircraft Corp just as surely as it will bring down Boeing's commercial passenger aircraft division.
Technically, Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas. But, as Richard Aboulafia, a noted industry analyst with the Teal Group, told me, "McDonnell Douglas in effect acquired Boeing with Boeing's money." McDonnell Douglas executives became key players in the new company, and the McDonnell Douglas culture, averse to risk and obsessed with cost-cutting, weakened Boeing's historical commitment to making big investments in new products. Aboulafia says, "After the merger, there was a real battle over the future of the company, between the engineers and the finance and sales guys." The nerds may have been running the show in Silicon Valley, but at Boeing they were increasingly marginalized by the bean counters. |
Same crappy cockpit with the eh same crappy seats with the 787 displays. Gee wiz. ST |
Interesting SR22, thanks for that, makes sense, bigger, heavier aircraft always seem to fly better.
I had flown the 757 for years before we started recommending F25 in gusty winds, quite a difference in handling, makes life a lot easier and I started using it all the time, except for very short runways, another benefit is it seemed to help alleviate that 'dead spot in pitch' as you lower the nose and sometimes loose elevator effectiveness. Best wishes. |
Well, there's no getting around it - It IS AB v Boeing...
Its a rehash of an old plane, looks old too. - I could put shorts on, but I still wouldn't look 21 again. But if they get the price right.. Who knows. |
If the A320Neo can sort out the engines and they don't have a host of tech issues then I think the Max is going to get hurt as it is just lipstick on a pig.
However if the Neo starts having problems then the Max will be lauded as great new aeroplane and will still be flying around in 2030+ with no EICAS/No fly by wire/manual everything. Meanwhile people will still be writing articles about autonomous aircraft being just around the corner:rolleyes: |
It kind of reminds me of the Checker cab...
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...Lipstick on a pig. What a metaphor! Brilliant.
My wish is one day they'll put a flippin' carpet in the flight deck. That's all, just a bit of sound deadening and felt on the floor. Is it too much to ask? |
Fox news...
Looking at the first post, I thought this to be rubbish, there was no maiden flight of the aircraft in question. Then I saw it covered by some real news agencies, not only FOX...
But on more serious notes, even though this aircraft isn't exactly new it's probably a potential moneymaker. I say, well done Boeing, congratulations for being able to market this 60 year old design as new. :cool: |
The 737MAX already has more than 3000 orders totaling $200 billion+ at list, and it's just getting started.
The A320neo caught Boeing off-guard, but barring a major unforeseen issue the 737MAX will be a big moneymaker for Boeing until the all-new 737 comes out in 2030. |
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