Apparently a dangerous thought some minutes ago posted merely mentioning
United States Patent: 7142971 assigned to the Boeing Company. Wouldn't dare to post a link, but would suggest a google of the U.S. patent # which reveals public disclosure:eek: of an interesting Boeing invention which describes........ "A method for automatically controlling a path of travel of a vehicle comprising: engaging an automatic control system of the vehicle" |
Anyone know about this?
A CNN 'expert' said that they had not searched the bottom near the area of the first and longest ping detect, because it was too deep for the Bluefin.
This certainly contradicts the impression I get from reading all of the JACC press releases and transcripts, but there is not precise refutation - I've seen no scaled map superimposing the high probability underwater search area and the four ping detects. Does anyone have exact information to refute this, or might it be true? |
The 'expert' probably stopped reading after the first mission of the Bluefin; the one that was aborted as the ocean was a bit too deep. He might have forgotten that they modified the software to allow the Bluefin to go deeper, which would incur a risk that was deemed acceptable.
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7142971
@sks777flier
that's some patent. surely nobody would install such a thing on a real airplane? As a consumer I'd not knowingly ride in one so equipped. |
Boeing Patent
If I hadn"t seen the patent I would have thought we we were in the realms of sci fi. The idea that pilots would 'irrevocably lose control to an automated system' because 'for instance someone repeatedly pounded on the cockpit door" is truly frightening in its implications. But surely Boeing would not file such a patent unless they had some thoughts of implementing it?
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Forget about the patents. All big companies patent everything they can think of. 99% of it will never be implemented.
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SATCOM Equipment
Datayq1,
The beam steering unit is for the high gain antenna system. The beam steering unit receives digital beam steering signals from the satellite data unit. The satellite data unit provides known satellite positions and steering signals to create a beam point. The antenna then uses the signals to make a narrow beam to the satellite. The beam steering unit changes the beam steering signals into phase shift data which is sent to the high gain antenna. The high gain antenna then uses this data to aim the RF signal at the satellite. When the SATCOM finds an active satellite it will lock onto it and attempt a log on. From lock-on the system will simply follow the satellite. If the beam is interrupted, then the system will reacquire the satellite and lock-on again, therefore another log on attempt. We know that the satellite was indeed acquired by the hand shake communications every hour from Inmarsat. |
Boeing patent
If you look at that patent, it cites a long list of (very) similar patents attempting to cash in on, sorry, respond to, the post 9/11 hysteria. In all likelihood Boeing just obtained it as a defensive measure in case such a loony system were ever to be mandated and they found themselves being bent over a barrel for licensing fees. As someone else pointed out, just because a patent has been obtained doesn't mean it will ever be implemented. Nor has it.
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patents as ambit claims
I'm confident that the pilot lockout technology described in patent 7142971 was not a factor in the disappearance of MH370. Most patents are ambit claims, combining a range of innovations into a device that may or may not eventually prove viable. The point then is that any company that makes something that relies on any of these innovations has infringed on the patent. I doubt that Boeing has perfected a complete system as described, but if they have it would be doubly unlikely that it found is way into an aircraft that was flying before the patent was filed.
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Ping arc data released
Inmarsat ping-arc data released today via the Malaysian authorities
https://twitter.com/IvanCNN/status/4...043520/photo/1 Very first fit to the data is shown in figure 1 using a great circle at constant speed, fitting the course and start point. No surprise perhaps, the course heads straight for the original search area, so that _was_ defined by the ping data. It's an excellent fit, with the last point only a bit wobbly, an error of 0.6degrees on elevation. The other fitted points are have errors around 0.1degree in elevation. However, as mentioned a _long_ time ago, the ping-arc/elevation data cannot distinguish courses with smooth changes of heading - they look like other great circle routes. Since the search area changed, then this must be what happened. More to come. Figure 1: Best fit to the Inmarsat ping-arc data. First Fit To The Inmarsat Ping-Arc Data Released 29th April 2014 Photo by RichardC10 | Photobucket |
Are they going to release the Doppler rate if change data in relation to the Inmarsat?
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I thought that the entire reason Immarsat was able to distinguish between the N arc and the S arc was because their satellite is not perfectly stationary above the earth but happens to move about a bit, which creates a second doppler shift which obviously varies according to which way the satellite happens to be moving.
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Do we trust this new graph??? I have being searching the net like mad and an unable to find a legit source!....Nothing in the news about it being "released by the Malaysian authorities".
Any one have a legit link??? |
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only reporter in the whole room with a camera??...and a poor one at that!!
It seems from your links that it may have being shown to the families...Not released yet as far as I can tell. |
Not released yet as far as I can tell. |
Ping arc data released
Probably just an error in the chart, (or my brain), but isn't the Ping 4 arc inside Ping 1 Arc - roughly -29?
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Probably just an error in the chart, (or my brain), but isn't the Ping 4 arc inside Ping 1 Arc - roughly -29? So Final ping arc = 00:11UT Ping arc - 1 = 22:41 Ping arc - 2 = 21:41 Ping arc - 3 = 20:41 Ping arc - 4 = 19:41 I didn't model the pings at around 18.30 as it is not clear how they relate to the final constant speed route. |
Originally Posted by IRpilot2006
(Post 8456034)
I thought that the entire reason Immarsat was able to distinguish between the N arc and the S arc was because their satellite is not perfectly stationary above the earth but happens to move about a bit, which creates a second doppler shift which obviously varies according to which way the satellite happens to be moving.
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