The fact that they may have been over the sea and from what I understand there aren't to many floating cell phone masts in the middle of the ocean :ooh: might explain the lack of social media events at the time.

As for your statement regarding hypoxia, read about the subject first it might give you an understanding why they couldn't turn on a phone let alone use it.:ugh::ugh::ugh:

how many radio masts do you assume to be present over the indian ocean to logon with the cellphone ? even over land it will not work in 35000 feet.

Re-post: SATCOM for voice?
 

I keep seeing questions related to why the SATCOM system was sent pings, etc, and discussion related to ACARS use, MAS subscription to the ACARS reporting service to Boeing (or not), but isn't it also the case that the SATCOM transceivers at ALSO available for voice comms?

Our former tv weather and science guy wrote a good explanation of why cells don't work from the air. It's here:
Why Cell Phones Don?t Work (Well) From The Air ? My Permanent Record

Romeo E.T. said:-
 

[QUOTE]I cannot help but still think its a catastrophic loss of electrical power, similar to to uncapping the battery switch and turning it off.......poof...instant darkness, no back up stby power....just total silence.

The engines will continue to work, being totally capable of suction feed only, as long as no large thrust changes are made./QUOTE]

Lots been said about total electrical failure.

The Rollers on my plane are certified to my 51,000 ceiling BUT RR only guarantees them to suction feed to 20,000.

So what ceiling will the Rollers suction to on the T7? If closer to my 20K then MH370 could never have flown for the 7 plus hours. Thus total electrical failure seems unlikely.:=
Answers from T7 drivers please.

@Mahatma Kote

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post8374421

MH used to have a very peculiar routing KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE, involving 2 trans oceanic legs.

ATC Tapes 2
 

Just a thought but should there not be a tape of all comms from ATC to the aircraft including Ground, clearance delivery, tower, departure or centre?
Should these tapes not provide an opportunity for voice recognition software to confirm who was talking when and what was said.
I am sure everybody would like to see a complete transcript of the last contact both from ATC and the aircraft.

Sorry if I was unclear in my original post. What I meant to ask was why have the authorities not referred to them. It would clear up, at least, the actual terminology used in the last contact.

Hopefully... but it wouldn't have the time of flight measured for a call and reply signal, so the location might not be up to much.

Maybe the hourly broadcast from the aircraft (in response to the satellite's call?) is precise enough in time to be measurable to 20ms each hour (or Inmarsat's broadcasts were snaffled up too). If both signals are heard by a Three Letter Agency, then the various times of flight should allow that all to be put together.

someone found it on tomnod.....not familiar with the website so not sure what the deal is....mirror is reporting it

It is being reported that the US has requested Malaysia to "be transparent" and share the known information to eliminate confusion and speculation

...we might be on the verge of a huge and/or unbelievably interesting data-dump which will hopefully answer a lot of the questions and/or ideally stop a few of the many 'what-if...' theories

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2 thoughts
1) Inmarsat. Has anyone thought to ask them if they went back to the prior flight of this aircraft and verified the pings match it's known location? One you might be able to calibrate out any error from the comparison. And two, if the satcom RT had been swapped out with another aircraft, we are chasing our tails yet again.

2) I've seen somewhere that there was 600+ runways that the aircraft could land on within its range. I assume they mean "safely land on". What if you don't care about the airframe, but you would like to try not to kill anyone if possible. I came across an island on tomnod that appeared to be deserted, but you could see remnants of what appeared to be WW2 defenses along its southwestern side. Maybe an abandoned WW2 strip on a deserted island. If the pilot did this for political motivations, maybe he's siting till they run out of mangosteens before he manually sets off the ELT.

I'm just trying to hold out hope.:(

It's not photoshop. There is an airport a few miles north-east of this plane. It's not on the ground, it's on its way to land at Port Blair, South Andaman.

Hypoxia
 

Couldn't agree more.

Hypoxia as a possible cause has been bandied about often enough and deserves some light being thrown on it.
It’s basically an incomplete interruption of O2 to the brain which uses 20% of body O2 intake. Consciousness is usually lost in about 15 seconds and irreversible brain damage starts after 4 minutes or so.
(Anoxia is complete interruption of brain supply of O2 eg hanging/strangulation)
The possible causes of hypoxia in an a/c in flight could possibly be high altitudes (unpressurised), smoke inhalation and CO inhalation.
The response of the body to hypoxia is to speed up the blood flow to the brain (max of 2x normal).
If this compensation is insufficient, symptoms start to appear - problems with concentration, attention, co-ordination and short-term memory, which may be relatively subtle to begin with. There may be headache, light-headedness, dizziness, an increase in breathing rate and sweating. There can be a restriction in the field of vision, a sensation of numbness or tingling and feelings of euphoria.
As the degree of anoxia becomes more pronounced, confusion, agitation or drowsiness appear, along with cyanosis. There may be brief jerks of the limbs (myoclonus) and seizures, both resulting from the damaging effects of lack of oxygen on the brain. If the anoxia is severe, it will result in loss of consciousness and coma.
In a rapidly developing situation (from fire for example), the window of about 15 seconds leaves very little time for pilots to take proper action. O2 masks would require presence of mind and only if something else has not arrested the pilot’s attention or even prevented that action.
Rapid fire progression in the cockpit with a locked doors and fire-knocked out or pilot-actioned comms, leaves the cabin pax and crew isolated, wondering and not taking action until they too late as they become incapacitated.
Hope this sheds some light. However this scenario is only possibly true IF fire is the cause. And one would expect the a/c to crash and be found not too far away. Tanks loaded with fuel on the first leg of the flight would also not help the a/c get too far.

off topic: interesting to see how much (or better: little) attention two incidents with US mainlines are getting in face of the unsolved mystery around this flight. Just imagine how the threads about a major airline loosing some parts of the wing inflight or another one relanding right after getting airborne and trying to stop on the remaining runway would look like in quieter times...

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mh3...pbox-map.3304/

Below is now debunked, leaving it in place only for future people reading the thread
http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1395180902/459/9844459.jpg

Plane satellite image uncovered - asia - world | Stuff.co.nz

I don't believe the aircraft would have flown any great distance on autopilot with structural damage or a fire on board even with crew incapacitated .

The slow decompression scenario does not make sense either , nobody would ignore the EICAS warning , even if the pilots passed out before that point ( very unlikely) the cabin crew would have noticed masks dropping and after several mins notified cockpit if they did not recognise a descent and in desperation would have carried a portable bottle to the cockpit and energy opened the door.

It really only leaves the options
Deliberate Pilot hi jack
Unknown hi Jackers/s
Or the aircraft was shot down or destroyed in a short space of time...

Seems to me to be a number of good reasons there why the aircraft in that sat photo would not be MH370 !