Just seeing the tail and a lot of debris at the landing threshold. Am wondering if this was a hard tail strike?

There is a live helicopter feed on Fox News and it has just shown the tail sat just before the runway threshold and marks on the ground over the embankment into the water on the approach.

I just saw a news report on NBC TV which featured a camera shot apparently taken from a news helicopter from somewhere over the bay northeast of the airport. From this perspective it appears that the airplane came to rest less than 100 feet left of rwy 28L just beyond the 1,000' aim point markers. 2 left side escape slides deployed, maybe 1L and 2L.

Low speed ... high AOA ... late realization of a short touchdown ...

Didn't a 777 land short before due to ice in the fuel?

2nd 777 hull loss, and it looks like deja vu all over again.

May be for different reasons, but it looks remarkably similar.

CNN showing extensive debris field on runway undershoot.

Reports are now saying all are accounted for.

Looks very similar dynamic to the BA crash in LHR. Give the pilots the benefit of the doubt before we start accusing them of landing short and hard enough to rip of the tail and open the rear bulkhead like a tin of sardines on a fair weather day.

Umm, is it just me, or do the passengers seem to be strolling out of the burning airplane with their carry on luggage?

http://crush.flightaware.com/~dbaker/AAR.jpg

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Thought RR had issued a fix for the fuel icing issue...!

777 Crash LHR. Engines didn't respond. Looks a little similar!!

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This is only the second hull loss accident for a Boeing 777, introduced in 1995. The previous accident was in 2008 when a British Airways 777 crashed short of the runway at London Heathrow due to engine failure.

Seems like ENG nr2 separated from the wing and caught fire.. You can see from the photos that the engine fire has burned a hole in the fuselage next to the wing root!

Helicopter view of the apparent tail strike on the water berm way ahead of the zebra stripes:

http://theori.st/take_away/random/kt...30706_1240.jpg

It does have similarities to the BA38 incident. This one had P+W engines. Dont know if the FOHE was a RR part or common to all 777's. Anyway, all are OK which is the main thing.

Before all the armchair NTSB investigators think they have found the cause..

This aircraft had PW4090 engines. The BA aircraft involved in the LHR accident had RR Trent895 engines.

Either way, this proves again that the 777 is a tank. Of course the landing gear, and engines are gone, but the hull remained intact.

Despite perfect weather conditions, the aircraft has made contact with the rock wall / breakwater at the waters edge. This is well short of the threshold. The impact has taken the tail off and the aircraft has finished up off the runway with the engines detaching too. Thankfully all passengers and crew appear to have made it out of the wreckage. Reason for the undershoot yet to be determined.

Seems the tail contacted the very start of the runway, debris in the water and in the displaced threshold area, very quick stop which suggests it was a slow and short landing. Apparently all on board safe:eek: amazing news if true! Echoing the posts about crew bashing, we don't know the facts all though this has a certain BA38 esque feeling.