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75 taken alive, 76 in a fix, 77 going to heaven. Some one told me this wickedness.. made it easy to remember :)
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Yes don't put squawk codes here this is a special place, instead invest 2 seconds for a quick google and they're everywhere....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder_(aviation) |
Nutters
I know facts are thin on the ground however I find it frustrating that passengers can try it on at will and then if unsuccessful they could be dismissed as "sorry I thought it was the loo door and i was desperate to get in" with a slap on the wrist.
Most likely this was a genuine false alarm however it is all too easy to trigger a full emergency response and incurr huge costs and distress. I really hope there is some point of law that can be brought against these kind of nutters and set an example. There has to be some dis-incentive or else we will end with every other flight going through a anti terrorism exercise. |
7500 is unlawful interference (hijacking is given as an example) and the pic from Dak Man looks more like An F15 from lakenheath.
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7500 is Interference not hijack, (7600 Comms, 7700 Emergency). I can't tell you the new ones or I'd have to kill you ;) |
Ww/W, I'm a seaman and airman of many years experience and I can assure you that scale and distance are/is very deceptive. Eyes, camera, recollection all lie.
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A pair of halfwits having a row...
...who proceeded to talk themselves into an arrest, per the London Evening Standard:-
It is believed a passenger on the flight allegedly threatened to blow up the plane after other passengers tried to intervene in a row he was embroiled in. Murtaza Ali Shah, a journalist, said he had spoken to a friend on board the plane, Fakhir Iqbal, a political activist, who was sitting behind the man who made the threat. Mr Shah said his friend told him: "Two guys started a row with a girl and lots of other people. Some people tried to calm them and asked them not to be rowdy and abusive. Fakhir told them to calm down. They said 'don't bloody speak to us or we will blow up the plane'. The crew came and spoke to them and they were openly threatening the staff. Fakhir went to other crew members and told them they were making threats." Two men quizzed on mid-air 'fight' | London Evening Standard |
A silly question - what is the purpose of scrambling fighters if the comms were normal? Or let me re-phrase it: what is the chain of decision making in UK to shoot down an airliner?
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Stansted is the airport of choice for the UK government to divert aircraft... |
All in all, a good result.
Passengers and machine safe. A good Action by RAF, which will assist in training. I really fail to see what all the kerfuffle is about. Nutters or drunks will be charged. PIA continues it's good case as an Airline of choice :eek: |
A silly question - what is the purpose of scrambling fighters if the comms were normal? Or let me re-phrase it: what is the chain of decision making in UK to shoot down an airliner? I would think hard on who to tell what in sn incident like this. Depending on the country you are over, maybe nothing,just declare emergency and land. There are those itchy trigger fingers... |
I'm assuming there weren't any Air Marshals on board, but in a scenario like this, surely they would have intervened? I'm kind of surprised there weren't any Air Marshals on board especially from a higher risk country like Pakistan...
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Yesterday i asked why the moderators are they allowing the discussion of sensitive transponder codes, but the mere mention of a certain middle east airline and your immediately censored.
I am aware this information is available if you dig enough, but don't believe that it should be broadcast on a forum open to the public. Safety first my arse. |
Could it have been being escorted out of a different European Airspace to the UK, Belgium or Holland maybe, don't they have F-16s? |
Why are they "sensitive transponder codes"? If there is anything secret about ATC procedures not covered somewhere in these 700 pages:
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf, do you really think that it would be hard for the Bad Guys to find out? |
The transponder codes are publicly available from many sites - just Google 'transponder codes UK' and nearly half a million results come up. Pprune is not the first result in the search. We're certainly not giving highly secret information away.
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Seems to have happened near GOLES so would have come via MUAC Delta Sectors. SOP there is F16s We can put that part of this topic discussion to bed now. Thanks PR |
Post 33 made me chucle but instead of a DON'T PANIC button better make that a towel :ok:
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Basil i find our story VERY hard to believe. If you ask people who have lived and worked in the middle east you will find there are two sets of rules. one set for GCC and the other for non-GCC. If you are non-GCC they are far from lenient.
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Basil i find our story VERY hard to believe. If you ask people who have lived and worked in the middle east you will find there are two sets of rules. one set for GCC and the other for non-GCC. If you are non-GCC they are far from lenient. If so, don't listen to your friends; speak to someone who's been there, done it, got the T-shirt. Bas - GF 4yrs living in Manama, frequent trips to DXB whilst working for CX, trips to Persian Gulf whilst working for BA. |
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