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denlopviper 9th May 2012 09:05

just saw the radar track of the aircraft.

fully established on the ILS, then in just under 10 seconds the aircraft goes from 2500 feet and 175 knots at 5.3NM (from the field, NOT DME) to 1900 feet and 215 knots at 4.5NM (again from the field, NOT DME), which is the last recorded position just before impact.

no i can not share the recording until the report comes out so please dont ask.

aterpster 9th Jul 2012 01:11

OPRN Gets RNAv IAP to RWY 12
 
This is a huge improvement for Islamabad.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...OPRNRNAV12.jpg

aterpster 9th Jul 2012 17:21

OK465:


This is the future. Credit to the civil aviation authorities. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif

Using brand "A" box, that leg from TAXAL to TERIK will result in about a 2.2-2.3 NM lead point for the turn approaching TERIK at the max of 220k, no wind, and a roll-out on track the same distance from TERIK outbound. With the lead point required for the turn at RN363 at the max of 210k, that leaves about 0.5-0.6 NM of 'wings level' time on the 'base'.

A poor man's RF turn.
A prudent pilot familiar with RNAV would most likely be reduced to 180 KIAS, or less by that point in the approach.

aterpster 9th Jul 2012 23:00

ok465:


One would hope they all are...

Credit to the designers of the approach also, but why not an RNAV miss? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif
Beats me. But, Jepp codes the missed approach as an RNAV overlay, so the entire procedure can be flown in LNAV, including the missed approach holding pattern.

4runner 17th Jul 2012 20:35

A 737-200 with RNAV?

Romeo E.T. 17th Jul 2012 22:08


A 737-200 with RNAV?
my thoughts as well, having flown this exact aircraft numerous times whilst still in her BA colours, she was a HDG SEL only aircraft with a stand alone Garmin GPS unit...suitable for RNP4 enroute navigation only

aterpster 17th Jul 2012 23:02

4runner:


A 737-200 with RNAV?
The RNAV approach Runway 12 came about because of the Air Bus circle to land crash northwest of the airport, not the later 737 that crashed into flat terrain southeast of the airport.

inducedrag 18th Jul 2012 10:34

This is being confirmed by Bhoja employees, the carrier is most likely becoming Air Arabia Pakistan, the latter have been grounded since May


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