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737 reported down in Canada
First Air 737 reported down in Canada, operating out of Yellowknife. Unconfirmed.
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Plane From Yellowknife To Resolute Bay Crashes In Far North
A First Air flight has crashed near Resolute Bay, Nunavut in Canada's far North. The plane, which departed from Yellowknife and was apparently headed to Resolute, crashed early Saturday afternoon. A source said the 737 was carrying 15 passengers plus crew members. Transport Minister Denis Lebel's spokeswoman Vanessa Schneider could not confirm the number of people affected. "No firm details yet," she wrote in an email. |
A 737 passenger jet crashed Saturday near Resolute Bay, Nunavut, in Canada's High Arctic, killing 12 people and injuring three others on board.
Nunavut RCMP have confirmed First Air charter flight 6560 was travelling from Yellowknife to Resolute Bay with 15 people on board, including four crew members, the CBC's Patricia Bell reported from Iqaluit. The RCMP said in a release it "was made aware of the possibility of some survivors." A flight list was not immediately available. The Joint Rescue Co-ordination Centre in CFB Trenton says helicopters and medical personnel are now at the site. Hundreds of military personnel are currently in the area for Operation Nanook. But the co-ordination centre says that the incident was not a part of a simulation exercise planned for the military operation. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is scheduled to travel to Resolute Bay on Monday for his annual trip to the Arctic. Plane crash near Resolute Bay kills 12 - North - CBC News |
From Canadian Forces website
Operation NANOOK 11 is a two part operation. Part one:
Operation NANOOK 11 will involve more than 1100 participants from the Canadian Forces Navy, Army, Air and Special Forces. In addition, over 100 personnel from other participating countries will take part. |
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The simulated disaster, I believe, is an unfortunate coincidence.
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One of the posters on here seems to have quoted someone who was in Resolute when the accident happened.
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It is a very sad day here in Yellowknife.
I'm sure I have seen these folks while passing on the ramp maybe even said hello. It is a small/tight aviation community here in Yellowknife and in Canada's Arctic. A photo of the accident posted by a member of avcanada.ca http://p.twimg.com/AXUGmY0CMAAPmQb.jpg |
Nunavut town reeling after plane crash kills 12 - The Globe and Mail
Aircraft registration reportedly C-GNWN msn# 21067 in service initially with Wien Air Alaska in 8/1975. |
Too early to say, but my thoughts for what it's worth.
The airfield has an ILS on RW 35 but the wind was from the south at 10 knots or more. The runway is just over 1900 m long. Crash position was to the south east of the airport. This suggests to me an ILS approach to RW 35 (with a tailwind), followed by breaking right for a left hand downwind pattern to land on RW17. The left hand pattern would have favoured the circle to land being flown from the left hand seat which is what one would expect when flying in challenging conditions. Don't know what the circling minimums for Resolute Bay are, but the cloud base at the time was pretty low...... |
Low Vis and Non ILS App
My condolences to all those families.
TAF CYRB 210538Z 2106/2206 VRB03KT 1/2SM -DZ FG VV001 TEMPO 2106/2113 2SM BR SCT001 OVC006 FM211300 VRB03KT P6SM SCT005 OVC015 TEMPO 2113/2118 2SM BR BKN005 OVC015 FM211800 11010KT P6SM SCT015 BKN030 TEMPO 2118/2203 4SM -DZ BR BKN015 OVC030 BECMG 2201/2203 11015G25KT FM220300 11015G25KT P6SM SCT004 BKN015 OVC030 TEMPO 2203/2206 2SM -DZ BR OVC006 PROB30 2203/2206 1/2SM FG OVC002 RMK NXT FCST BY 211200Z= SPECI CYRB 210710Z 31003KT 5/8SM BR OVC002 RMK FG3ST5= SPECI CYRB 210710Z CCA 31003KT 1/2SM FG OVC002 RMK FG3ST5= METAR CYRB 210700Z 31003KT 4SM -DZ BR OVC002 04/04 A2998 RMK ST8 SLP159= SPECI CYRB 210612Z 29002KT 4SM -DZ BR OVC002 RMK ST8 VIS W 15= METAR CYRB 210600Z 00000KT 1/2SM R35/5500FT -DZ FG VV001 04/04 A2997 RMK FG8 SLP155= SPECI CYRB 210528Z 26003KT 1/2SM R35/4500FT -DZ FG VV001 RMK FG8= SPECI CYRB 210517Z 00000KT 1/2SM R35/4500FT -DZ FG OVC002 RMK FG5ST3= SPECI CYRB 210502Z 29003KT 1/2SM R35/3000FT -DZ FG VV001 RMK FG8= METAR CYRB 210500Z 29003KT 0SM R35/2400FT -DZ FG VV001 04/04 A2996 RMK FG8 SLP151= |
Aldente:
The airfield has an ILS on RW 35 but the wind was from the south at 10 knots or more. The runway is just over 1900 m long. Crash position was to the south east of the airport. http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...pster/11-2.jpg |
That hill is only just over 430' high and they hit below the top, below back-course DA and well below circling:confused:.
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The crash site is located less than 2km west of Resolute Bay Community in rugged terrain. First Air confirmed their Boeing 737-200 C-GNWN had an accident in the hills about 8km from the airport of Resolute Bay. So it looks almost like the 732' hill. |
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My knowledge of the geography of the area is not good but news reports say the aircraft came down near the settlement of Resolute Bay. Looking on Google maps satellite view confirms that this small town is to the south east of the airfield / runway. In that case, seems unlikely that they would have been flying the ILS back course procedure for RW17. Further information taken from the The Aviation Herald website :- The crash site is located less than 2km west of Resolute Bay Community in rugged terrain. A listener on frequency reported the crew of C-GNWN had called 3nm final for runway 35T, which proved to be their last radio transmission. Temporary Tower tried to raise them without success. Another aircraft was on approach to runway 17T and went around because of fog, they were asked by tower whether they could see anything. During their second approach the fog lifted and the crew of that aircraft was able to see a debris field and black smoke at the top of a hill CYRB 201900Z 15008KT 8SM VCFG OVC006 07/06 A2985 RMK SC7 VIS N-E 3 FG TOP OF HILL SLP113 CYRB 201800Z 19008KT 10SM VCFG SCT003 OVC010 07/07 A2983 RMK SF3ST5 SLP108 CYRB 201700Z CCA 20007KT 10SM VCFG SCT002 OVC009 07/06 A2982 RMK SF2ST6 SLP105 CYRB 201649Z 18013KT 5SM -DZ BR OVC003 RMK ST8 CYRB 201600Z 18008KT 10SM -DZ OVC007 06/06 A2981 RMK ST8 SLP100 CYRB 201533Z 17008KT 5SM -DZ BR OVC006 RMK ST8 CYRB 201500Z 18016KT 1/2SM R35/2200FT -DZ FG VV002 06/06 A2979 RMK FG8 SLP095 CYRB 201450Z 17013KT 5/8SM -DZ BR VV002 RMK FG8 CYRB 201434Z 17016KT 15SM -DZ OVC005 RMK ST8 CYRB 201400Z 16014KT 15SM BKN009 OVC070 07/06 A2979 RMK SF4AC4 SLP094 As said previously, not great circling weather IF that's what they were trying to do...... |
First Air released a rather cool statement to this worst accident in their history today:
First Air confirms accident |
The actual source of Aldente's posted information seems to be The Airline Website, but they don't appear to have been credited for it. The full post is below. Nothing to determine whether it's credible data, but with that caveat:
"I was there. They called 3 miles final RW35T then nothing. The temporary tower tried to raise them. A Borek B99 was on approach to RW17T on the Back Course, planning to land after the 737. The B99 missed its approach on 17 (fog) and was asked by the temp tower "if they could see anything". Just after they tried a second approach, the fog lifted a bit and the top of the hill in the distance started becoming visible, with black smoke and eventually flames and a debris field coming into view. "Something I had hoped I would never see in my lifetime. If it hadn't been for the military presence, a response would have taken many hours if not days. Reports of 3 survivors means I and our crew may have witnessed a miracle." |
Survivors
Reported that 3 of 15 aboard survived - two stewardesses and a seven year old girl.
All flown to hospital in Iqualuit by C-17. One stewardess reported to be in critical condition. |
NOTAM
Jetplan shows following NOTAM for CYRB, also VASIS U/S on Rnwy 17
CYRB APT 20110813ABAV01 110122 WIE /11 22AUG2359 CYRB ILS 35 UNSERVICEABLE TIL 1108222359 |
Jetplan shows following NOTAM for CYRB, also VASIS U/S on Rnwy 17 |
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