I got my FE written on the DC8. I know all about turbo compressors etc. Aren't those derelects great? Now that I am retired I never care about what law I am in. Isn't it great? I kind of lied because Boeing doesn't have laws. Only Airbus. I remember looking over my right shoulder on takeoff on the 727 seeing the #1 gen kick off before V1 on a slick runway in the carribean at max weight. I told the FO flying it was OK, the FE would fix it. Unfortunately at V1 the FE selected #1 for essential power and we lost our instruments. I said he will fix it just fly. He finally got us back but I always knew what was wrong and how to fix it but with the new technology it might not be that easy.

Well - the old technology was obviously so easy to fix the the FE did a cracking job first time round:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Actually - the new technology is fine and easily understandable! It just requires a little more effort than the useless CBT course during a transition which is A) basic and B) caters for the stupid....

Personally - any type I fly I like to know the systems inside out! And it's entirely possible with the Airbii:ok:

The FE should have shut a pack off to reduce the electrical load and not touched essential power since it was powered by #3 gen. He just came back from flying FO on another airplane and was being given a route check by an FE check airman so knew between the two of them they would figure it out. It was kind of like driving a 56 Ford vs a 2010 Lexus and the engine quits. I could fix the Ford.

'Cept when the Ford or Lexus quit you are on 'terra firma':hmm: Bit of a difference I would say:ok: I do see your point with regard to pure engineering though - however, the important thing is the knowledge as to how to deal with whatever failure you have and I feel that the modern CBT is rubbish compared to a 'chalk and talk' transition!!!! I'm sure most would agree with this too!