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Saintsman 16th Sep 2010 10:16

Boeing estimate 1M pilots & engineers needed in next 20 yrs
 
Boeing projects need for one million pilots and maintenance personnel in next 20 years

I'm quite surprised by the ratio of pilots to engineers in this estimate. Approx 460K pilots to 600K engineers for 30,000 new aircraft delivered in the next 20 years (plus existing fleets).

That's a lot of pilots required IMO.

MucMuc 16th Sep 2010 11:12

No doubt all these companies will want experienced pilots/engineers....i no doubt the training will be stepped up, but who is going to hire all those entry-level positions?

just a thought...

silvercare 16th Sep 2010 11:32

Again and again with old boring stoy line claiming we are in danger, there will be a huge shortage of this or that. If we look at any newpaper 10 years ago the mayor Hubs and airport were going to collapse due to an exponential increment in passengers movement than an economical downturn came-in and nowdays some are just empty cathedrals.

As correctly stated, just experienced personell will be required.

RB311 16th Sep 2010 11:44

does anyone know how many there are now? 1.5million??

169west 16th Sep 2010 11:52


does anyone know how many there are now? 1.5million??
yes maybe 2 million furlough and the Chinese are not really awake yet, they can build pilots faster and better!

Blue-Footed Boobie 16th Sep 2010 11:53

Imagine 460,000 new pilots all saying ''Get Stuffed'' when asked if they would like to pay for the type rating...

P2F end of.


Blue Foot

hetfield 16th Sep 2010 12:24

So these data are based on 2men cockpit?

StinkyMonkey 16th Sep 2010 12:44

It's based on one man, one monkey and a giraffe...

hetfield 16th Sep 2010 12:45

Welcome stinkymonkey:ok:

big white bird 16th Sep 2010 12:46

crock of ****e.

boeing is full of dreamers.

Muvo85 16th Sep 2010 12:53

Great material for the FTOs to reel in even more cash!

click 16th Sep 2010 13:00

My kids will have a real job instead!

Huck 16th Sep 2010 13:58


The forecasted number of pilots required in the next 20 years is twice the 233,000 pilots in the industry currently, while the number of maintenance personnel required is six times of the 100,000 such personnel today, says Roei Ganzarski, chief customer officer, Boeing Training and Flight Services.

This is the first time that Boeing is releasing such a forecast, which is based upon its current market outlook for aircraft.

"When you add up all the numbers, you quickly understand the issues facing this industry," he adds. "Our challenge is adapting our training to engage the future generation of people who will fly and maintain the more than 30,000 airplanes that will be delivered by 2029," says Ganzarski.

The largest growth will be in the Asia Pacific, with a requirement for 180,600 pilots and 220,000 maintenance personnel. Within Asia, China will experience the greatest growth with 70,600 pilots and 96,400 maintenance personnel.
North America will need 97,350 pilots and 137,000 maintenance workers, Europe 94,800 and 122,000 respectively, Africa 13,200 and 15,000 respectively, the Middle East 32,700 and 44,500 respectively, Latin America 37,000 pilots and 44,000 respectively, and the CIS 11,000 and 14,000 respectively.

They need to put the bong down, and go out there and get that damn 787 certified....

XL319 16th Sep 2010 17:21

Demand for pilots set to soar?
 
BBC News - Demand for pilots is 'set to soar' as plane travel grows

I remain cynical about this, but I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts....

Van Gough 16th Sep 2010 17:36

maybe some of the 1.5 million out of work pilots around the world might get a job...

McNulty 16th Sep 2010 17:46

Van Gough:

Just curious - where did you get the figure of 1.5 million from?


As reguards that article from the bbc, i have no doubt that the figures quoted seem reasonable - but only from a demand perspective. The real question in my humble opinion is whether that demand can be met in terms of supplying fuel at an affordable price to expanding asian countries....a question that for obvious reasons is not in the interest of boeing to raise.

Big Pistons Forever 16th Sep 2010 17:55

A more interesting question is the sea change in airline travel. A lot of the status of being and "airline pilot" was a result of the percieved glamour of air travel. The LOCO's have completely destroyed that and now the average punters travel "experience" are in conditions expected when traveling on a poorly operated bus line. The rush to P2F for entry level jobs and the general dimunition of T & C's is further eroding the attractiveness of the profession yet the industry model now pretty much prohibits a return to the former high salaries.

Something has got to give and I wonder how many wannabe pilots with access to $150,000 and a willingness to work for basically nothing in their first few years, and most importantly with the actual smarts and skill to fly a jet; are left........

L-38 16th Sep 2010 18:29

Send this to the $#&* BBC News (Note # 8)

the-10-american-industries-that-will-never-recover: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

King on a Wing 16th Sep 2010 18:37

Big piston....PLENTY pilots with the 'quals' you stated are still around. Plenty who would willingly shed that kind of moolah to occupy the right hand seat of a big shiny jet..

L-38 16th Sep 2010 18:40


30,000 airplanes that will be delivered by 2029
Thats 1,579 aircraft delivered per year for the next 19 years or 132 aircraft per month or 4.5 per day continuosly)!


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