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Yemeni airliner reported crashed, 150 people on board according initial reports....
Details anyone? Government sources quoted on skynews saying "Unknown if any survivors". |
Guess the flight is IY627 from Moroni, Comoros to Sana'a, Yemen scheduled to be an Airbus A310 - Hope theres survivors.
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MORONI (Reuters) - An airliner belonging to Yemeni state carrier Yemenia Air crashed in the Comoros archipelago in the Indian Ocean with 150 people on board, a senior government official said Tuesday.
"We don't know if there are any survivors among the 150 people on the plane," a senior government official told Reuters. |
BBC link Here
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AP confirmed Airbus A310
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Latest quote from the BBC:-
"But a civil aviation official told the BBC that the plane was probably a few kilometres from the airport in the capital, Moroni, when it crashed. Weather conditions had not been good for several days, he added." |
The airport weather from 2200z till 0300z;
FMCH 292200Z 18022G33KT 9999 FEW020 24/17 Q1018 NOSIG= FMCH 292300Z 21025G35KT 9999 FEW020 25/16 Q1017 TEMPO 18015G30KT= FMCH 300000Z 21025G35KT 9999 FEW020 25/17 Q1016 TEMPO 19014KT= FMCH 300100Z 16010KT 9999 FEW020 25/13 Q1016 NOSIG= FMCH 300200Z 18015KT 9999 FEW020 24/15 Q1016 NOSIG= FMCH 300300Z 24007KT 9999 FEW020 23/14 Q1017 TEMPO 20017KT= |
Australian media reporting it as an A330...can anyone confirm?
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Quicktrip shows the aircraft as an A310, although IY operates A330s and an equipment change can't be ruled out.
Flight Schedules by QuickTrip - Worldwide Flight Schedule Travel Planner including Low Cost Carriers No info on the specific aircraft as yet, although IY currently operates four. Its last hull loss was in Asmara (727) in 2001 and at Khartoum (737) in 2000, but both of these events were non-fatal. |
IY 626 Yemen Airways 8:00 PM 11:59 PM Scheduled
A310 <---a/c type THIS WAS FROM FLIGHTSTATS. |
Yemenia Airways website ticker:
Yemenia regrets to announce the missing of its flight No. IY626 from Sana’a to Moroni with 142 passengers and 11 crew onboard for more information contact the call center at 00967 1250800 or the emergency No 00967 1 250833 or call center 00967 1 250800 |
An updated BBC report suggests that the aircraft was quite close to HAH when it disappeared; one report suggests that it performed a go around.
While not much of a consolation, it does suggest that the aircraft came down in fairly shallow waters, which should facilitate the recovery operation. BBC NEWS | Africa | Yemen jet crashes in Indian Ocean |
The Comoros officials report that they have no sea rescue facilities. God help any poor buggers that may have survived a ditching. Who would have sea rescue capabilities in that area? Mozambique? Tanzania? Yes, of course, we all know about Mozambiques and Tanzanias superb infrastructure and facilities ....:ugh:
It is also reported that there are French as well as Cormoran nationals on board. |
Early Warning
Heads up early folks. No more MS Flightsim screenshots, no speculation, no off-topic posts. The thread ban function works well in these situations.
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The approach at Hahaya FMCH can be very challenging indeed, I remember strange wind effects along the slopes of the vulcano as you might get at La Palma ( canaries) and Madeira.
At 9-sep-2003 we were at Moroni when the twr did report tailwind at both runway ends, a A310 from Yemenia made 2 attempts for approach which failed and they subsequently diverted to Dar es Salaam. It is offcourse to early to speculate if WX was also a factor here, I pray there are survivors and that they are saved... |
From the BNO Newsroom. MORONI, Comoros (BNO NEWS) -- A boat found the wreckage of a Yemenia Airlines passenger plane on Tuesday morning, several hours after it went down in the Indian Ocean off Comoros, officials told BNO News. More than 150 people were on board the plane. Around 8 a.m. local time, or 5 a.m. GMT, a boat which was assisting in the search for the crashed airliner reported that it had found the wreckage of the plane, a government official confirmed to BNO News. He did not know the condition of the wreckage or if any survivors were found. The plane went down in the Indian Ocean, close to the coast. "The wreckage was found about six minutes from the airport," the government official added. An official at the Comoros Foreign Ministry earlier said that residents from villages on the coast had witnessed the crash. The plane, an Airbus 310, was carrying a total of 147 passengers and 11 crew members. It was initially reported that there were 142 passengers on board but the official at the foreign ministry revised the number, saying 142 was incorrect. An unknown number of the passengers were Comoros residents returning from Paris. French residents were also reported to be on board. It was Yemenia Airlines flight 626 which took off from Sana'a International Airport in Yemen, about four and a half hours before it crashed, minutes before reaching it destination. It was en-route to Prince Said Ibrahim International Airport in Moroni, the capital of Comoros. It is unclear if the boat, which found the wreckage, belonged to Comoros or another country in the area. "Comoros does not have the facilities" to launch a rescue operation, a government official earlier said. He said a number of boats were en-route to the area and that France had sent a boat to assist in the search and rescue operation. As of 5 a.m. GMT it remained uncertain if there were any survivors. "We are hoping,", the foreign ministry official said. The cause of the crash is unknown, although foul play is not suspected. On November 23, 1996, Ethiopian Airlines flight 961 was hijacked and crashed near Comoros in the Indian Ocean after it ran out of fuel. A total of 175 passengers were on board, 125 of them were killed. Earlier incidents involving Yemenia Airlines Tuesday's plane crash is the worst accident in the history of Yemenia Airlines, records showed. The airline, which was founded in 1961, had been involved in three accidents. On June 26, 2000, a Boeing 737 went off the side of the runway at Khartoum-Civil Airport in Sudan, causing the nose gear to collapse. There were no injuries. On August 1st, 2001, a Boeing 727 overran the runway at Asmara International Airport in Eritrea and crashed into a large block of concrete, causing the main landing gear to fail. There were no casualties. On January 22nd, 2001, an Iraqi man hijacked a Yemenia Airlines flight about 15 minutes after it took off from San'a International Airport in Yemen. He was armed with a pen gun and claimed to have explosives with him. He demanded to be taken to Baghdad but the flight crew overpowered the hijacker when it made a landing in Djibouti to refuel. |
Moroni is a notoriously difficult airfield to fly into, especially at night. The airport is at sea-level on the West side of a skinny island, with a 7700' mountain just to the southeast of it and a 3600' one to the northeast..
There is no published approach to Rwy 20, just an VOR/DME/ILS for 02. Easy to get disoriented at night as there are very few ground lights, a true 'black-hole' with part of it being the volcano mentioned. Think SAA had a daylight-only policy for Moroni. No need to look further than CFIT and/or disorientation for this one IMHO. Another sad day for us all. |
CFIT into the ocean??? Its usually at a known altitude.
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CFIT into the ocean??? Its usually at a known altitude. |
Moroni is shiv!!!
It is a fighter approach on to the main Rw, around a 6000' mountain. With that wind - WS highly probable. The G/A is even worse. |
Difficult approach?
Now we are getting curious for the approach and terrain. Anyone an approachplate?
BTW: Don't forget to consider operating environment. |
Moroni charts
See the charts here
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Anyone know the Registration Mark of the A310 ??
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7O-ADJ, if anyone cares.
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ok
we have a tough airport, tough weather...stuff happens. |
The airfield charts are posted over in the Middle East forum.
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Airliners.net show 2 A310's for Yemenia - F-OHPR and F-OHPS.
It appears the flight was on approach to 20 from the position of the wreckage that has been found. I once flew the jump seat for the approach and landing to 02. I won't say which airline but it was pre Dubya paranoia. As I recall we turned final at 3,000' with some higher ground at our 4 o'clock. I don't remember it being particularly bumpy on the approach. It was late afternoon and good weather. |
Moroni + Night + WX + ???????
This isn't a place for the fainthearted.
I have seen many white faces after the first visit a night with a little WX to contend with. Luckily no other traffic to contend with so ATC not a problem. A serious black hole approach at night. Glad not to be flying there anymore. |
I did a check there and a couple of more flights about 3 years ago... During the day it didn't look so bad, but at night, with this kind of wind... Not my fav spot
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Associated Press
Quotes from Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau: "Two ships have left nearby Réunion Island, and a medivac Transall aircraft." "We'll also have other means out of Maytoote, near the Comores." "(The information) is still a bit vague. There's talk of an approach, an abort and a second approach that failed. Right now, you have to be cautious until all this information has been checked." "(France) will take part in the investigation if French citizens are aboard." "(Yemenia Air) is not on the black list otherwise it would never have been authorized to take off from Roissy." "(The A310) is one of the most well-known and most used aircraft in the world." "Right now, we're still sad one month later about the accident on June 1st." Original Article Le ministre des Transports Dominique Bussereau a annoncé mardi que des moyens français étaient mis en oeuvre, après l'accident de l'Airbus A310 de la compagnie nationale Yemenia Air au large des Comores dans la nuit de lundi à mardi. "Deux navires sont partis de la Réunion proche, et un (avion) Transall médicalisé", a déclaré le ministre sur Europe-1. "On va voir également les moyens disponibles à Mayotte, à proximité immédiate des Comores". Interrogé sur les mauvaises conditions météorologiques sur le lieu de l'atterrissage, "pour l'instant c'est encore un peu flou", a répondu le ministre. "On parle d'une approche, d'une remise de gaz, puis d'une approche nouvelle qui aurait été ratée. Pour l'instant il faut être prudent tant que toutes ces informations ne sont pas vérifiées". La France sera "associée à l'enquête s'il y a des compatriotes à bord", a-t-il ajouté. La compagnie Yemenia Air "n'est pas sur la liste noire sinon elle n'aurait pas eu l'autorisation de partir de Roissy", a-t-il poursuivi, précisant que l'Airbus A310 "est un des avions les plus connus dans le monde et les plus utilisés". "Pour l'instant on est surtout dans la tristesse un mois après l'accident du 1er juin" du vol AF447 d'Air France, a conclu M. Bussereau. AP Link: Accident d'avion au large des Comores: des moyens français mis en oeuvre, annonce Bussereau - Yahoo! Actualités |
Summary of Airbus statement/AP
Airbus says it was an A310-300 first delivered in 1990 and had been in service with Yemenia since October 1999. Mfr's serial number was 535 and registered as 70-ADJ.
It had 51,900 flight hours spread across 17,300 flights. The first A310-300 entered service in December 1985. As at May 31, 2009, 41 airlines operate a total of 214 A310s. The total A310 fleet has logged 11.7 million flight hours during 4.5 million flights. Link: Crash au large des Comores: l'Airbus A310-300 était en service à la Yemenia Air depuis octobre 1999 - Yahoo! Actualités (in French) |
1 survivor pulled from ocean
Sky news have just reported that 1 survivor of the A310 crash has been pulled from the ocean.
Any other reports on this? |
FROM : AIRBUS FLIGHT SAFETY DEPARTMENT TOULOUSE
ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX - ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX Subject: A310-300 IY626 accident Our ref.: IY626 AIT n°1 dated 30 June 2009 Airbus regrets to confirm that an A310-300 operated by Yemenia (Yemen Airways) was involved in an accident at about 2250 UTC (0150 local time) while approaching to Moroni, Comoro Islands. The aircraft was operating a scheduled service, flight number IY626, from Sana'a (Yemen) to Moroni (Comoro Islands). According to available information there were 142 passengers and 11 crew members on-board. There is no information about survivors. The aircraft involved in the accident, registration number 70- ADJ was MSN (Manufacturer Serial Number) 535. It was first delivered from the production line in 1990 and has been operated by Yemenia Airways since October 1999. The aircraft had accumulated approximately 51,900 flight hours in some 17,300 flights. It was powered by Pratt and Whitney engines PW4152. At this time no further factual information is available. In line with the ICAO Annex 13 international convention, Airbus will provide full technical assistance to the French BEA and to the Authorities who will be responsible for the accident investigation. A team of investigators from Airbus is being dispatched to the Comoro Islands. The concerns and sympathy of Airbus go to the families, friends and loved ones affected by the accident. Further update will be provided as soon as reliable information is available and Airbus is authorised to release it. |
Originally Posted by EDLB
CFIT into the ocean??? Its usually at a known altitude.
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"(The information) is still a bit vague. There's talk of an approach, an abort and a second approach that failed. Right now, you have to be cautious until all this information has been checked." |
French junior transport minister again
Funny, having read his quote earlier, to see this:
Paris - Airbus officials in France reported on Tuesday that the Airbus A310 that crashed near the Comoros Islands on Tuesday was 19 years old and had been in service with Yemenia since 1999. It had logged almost 52,000 flight hours and about 17,300 flights. French Junior Minister for Transport Dominique Bussereau told i- tele TV news that French civil aviation authorities had kept Yemenia Airways under close surveillance and had detected "very many defects" on the aircraft. The plane "disappeared from French skies" after these defects were found," Bussereau said." Politics, anyone? Or poor translation/editing? |
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Politics, anyone? Or poor translation/editing? |
Pjlot, have seen survivor reported as a child, will edit in a minute for link, have closed the window...
The Roanoke Times: News, sports and entertainment stories and information from the Associated Press Hosted by the Associated Press |
Vol IY 626 du 30 juin 2009
A310-300, immatriculé 70-ADJ Communiqué de presse diffusé le 30 juin 2009 : Accident survenu au cours de l’approche de l’aérodrome de Moroni (Comores) dans la nuit du 29 au 30 juin. Le BEA a été informé qu’un Airbus A310-300, immatriculé 70-ADJ, exploité par la compagnie Yemenia, vol IY626, assurant la liaison Sanaa (Yemen) – Moroni (Comores) s’est abîmé en mer au cours de son approche de l’aérodrome de Moroni (Comores) à 1 h 50, heure locale. Le BEA envoie une équipe d’enquêteurs accompagnée de spécialistes d’Airbus. "Flight IY 626 of June 30, 2009 A310-300, registered 70-ADJ Press release diffused on June 30, 2009: Accident which has occurred during the approach of the aerodrome of Moroni (the Comoro Island) in the night of the 29 at June 30. The BEA was informed that a A310-300 Airbus, registered 70-ADJ, operated by Yemenia Airways, flight IY626, ensuring the connection Sanaa (Yemen) - Moroni (the Comoro Island) was damaged at sea during its approach of the aerodrome of Moroni (the Comoros) at 1:50, local time. The BEA sends a team of investigators accompanied by Airbus specialists." It is now reported by French media that a child would have survived to the accident |
Flew from Sanna to Asmara on Yemeni A310, on the flightdeck. Enough said. Whatever happened here very sad.
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