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lomapaseo 23rd Apr 2009 12:43


Do you folks across the pond think airlines would be stupid enough to stop passing on reported bird strikes to the FAA because of this?
It's time to see where this goes next in a voluntary environment.

I'm quite anxious to see how Ppruners react to the actual data. If we collectively can see the benefits while minimizing the legal exposures then we have a winner.

Next step is to follow the analysis of the data by all the pseudo experts and see where that takes us.

silverhawk 23rd Apr 2009 15:56

Is this an attempt to bury the info that Hudson River crew shut down an engine that was on fire but giving thrust whilst engine No1 was already dead?

Politicians really are dirty.

airsupport 23rd Apr 2009 19:46

USA make bird strike reports mandatory

Thursday, Apr 23rd 2009 18:56Z


The United States Department of Transport decided, that bird strike reports will be mandatory in the future.

At the same time the data base about bird strikes will be published and remains in public despite proposals by the FAA to restrict access to the data.

The FAA had argued following the ditching of US flight 1549 in the Hudson River at New York in January this year and strongly increased media interest in bird strike data, that bird strike reports were voluntary. Exposure of the data in the wide public and associated media coverage could lead to potential harm to the airlines in public perceiption, so that airlines would no longer report their bird encounters leading to loss of critical data needed for regulators and aviation safety officials to uphold aviation safety.

The NTSB objected the proposal stating that "public access to all the data in the FAA Wildlife Strike Database is critical to the analysis and mitigation of the wildlife strike problem...".

barit1 24th Apr 2009 16:16

Fox reports that FAA birdstrike data are now online.

Mark in CA 24th Apr 2009 17:01

FAA: bird strikes more than double at big airports
 
WASHINGTON – Airplane collisions with birds have more than doubled at 13 major U.S. airports since 2000, according to Federal Aviation Administration data released for the first time Friday.

Eleven people have died in airplane collisions with birds or deer since 1990, the data show.

Topping the list of airports where planes were either substantially damaged or destroyed by birds since 2000 were John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York with at least 30 such accidents and Sacramento International Airport in California with at least 28 accidents. Kennedy, the nation's 6th busiest airport, is located amid wetlands that attract birds, and Sacramento International, the nation's 40th busiest, abuts farms whose crops draw birds.

FAA: bird strikes more than double at big airports

16down2togo 24th Apr 2009 17:18

so now the FAA found out it's now longer terorists downing planes it's birds.
Quite an achievement after all this years of bird strike reports iv'e been living with !!!
Or should we just shut down air traffic to sanction birds.
This all news is it??????
Are Birds that new a threat or are they just turning islamic those days???

ChristiaanJ 29th Apr 2009 18:58

I couldn't resist posting this one....

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All rights reserved to the original copyright holders, of course.

CJ

Pugilistic Animus 29th Apr 2009 19:56

CJ
it looks to me that that 747 is also equiped for IFR:}

ChristiaanJ 29th Apr 2009 20:16

PA,
"Catseyes Cunningham" rides again, you mean?

CJ

Pugilistic Animus 29th Apr 2009 21:26

He only killed birds at night:}

Brian Abraham 30th Apr 2009 04:33

From Aviation Week today

The FAA released its bird strike database Friday at the direction of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. The agency's fear that the information might cause an unsophisticated public to worry excessively about specific locations proved unfounded. There was a flurry of attention in the general news media over the weekend, now subsided, mostly about the 59,776 total strikes since 2000 and that probably 80 percent of "wildlife strikes" are unreported.

Acting NTSB chairman, Mark Rosenker remarked, "I was particularly gratified to read [Secretary LaHood's] comments . . . suggesting he would support making these reports mandatory. In 1999, the NTSB recommended that the FAA require all airplane operators to report bird strikes." Reporting is currently voluntary.

The NTSB has set a public hearing into the January ditching of US Airways flight 1549 in June. The Board will address bird strike threats to aviation safety at that hearing.

The FAA database is operated and maintained by Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Ariz. In the its current format, users can perform only limited searches online, and need to download the entire database into their own software for sophisticated searches, which the FAA admits can be cumbersome. An Embry Riddle official told the AOPA that over the next four months, it will make the database more user friendly.

Database available here Federal Aviation Administration - Wildlife Hazard Mitigation Home Page

RetroFire 30th Apr 2009 13:42

So does keeping birdstrike data from the public necessitate keeping the data from professional flight crew? If so, why?

That's like keeping intelligence about terrorist activities prior to 9/11 from commercial pilots, instead of keeping us informed (under confidentially agreements, of course), so thus we had the tragic events of that horrid day. :ugh:

They parse out relavant info and data to us as though we were step children, and insult us with silly badges and belittleing security charades.


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