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FAA proposes to keep bird strike data secret

Old 27th Mar 2009, 15:52
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FAA proposes to keep bird strike data secret

The US FAA is now proposing to not disclose information about bird strikes fearing a negative reaction among the flying public about airports with high levels of reported strikes. See the linked article:

FAA wants to keep bird strike records confidential
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 16:12
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Surely they would be better in putting their efforts at attempting to find solutions to reduce the number of bird strikes....
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 17:36
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Keep it secret keep it safe - is Gandalf in charge at FAA?

Maybe there should be a pool on how long before it appears on wikileaks.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 07:49
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This decision is madness.

Next will be banning reporting of ANY incidents involving aircraft in case it puts the public off flying; there are a number of organisations trying to do that already - don't give them any help!
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 14:17
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Dual role

Another problem caused by the FAA's dual role - both running safety, and running the "promotion" of the Aviation sector in USA.
Sometimes the promotion role leads to political responses like this. .........it's a bit like the FAA response to BA's 3-engine flight - pure politics, with safety as an afterthought.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 18:28
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Taking a helpful gambit from recent governmental actions, the FAA should issue a signing statement asserting "the so-called bird-strike problem" doesn't exist.
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 12:20
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Hmmm - om one hand I do agree with the FAA. Sensitive information should be treated with great care and we all know that 'the flying public' tends to overreact and jump at conclusions which have not much factual background.

If this is intended to gather sufficient information to create a scientific basis for measures against further, hopefully avoidable encounters of the sort 'Airbus vs. the Canadian Geese', fine.

But publicity also tells everybody: 'Hey, we're doing everything possible and we have nothing to hide'. Maybe that's the problem: that the Feds. are not doing all that should and/or could be done...
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 16:35
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Closing eyes in front of a problem doesn't solves it... This should not be implemented by FAA...
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 17:09
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If there is a way to make a stupid decision, the FAA (and much of the rest of government) seem particularly adept at finding and implementing it.
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 09:59
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 13:24
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Jetopa wrote:
we all know that 'the flying public' tends to overreact and jump at conclusions which have not much factual background.
In fairness to most SLF, they tend to react to press reports, rather than to hard information. Perhaps a better-educated public, or more restrained reporting (HAH!) would help matters.
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 13:31
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I think that they should NOT keep the data secret: passengers have a right to know the data!! If they keep the data secret, it may also keep some people from flying!
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 16:51
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FOIA

Someone needs to file a Freedom of Information Act request for the data, then we'll know what it contains.
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Old 1st Apr 2009, 00:37
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Anti-bird strike technique

Just use your weather radar. It's free. I've used this technique for 10+ years at Southwest, where we are in the takeoff/landing environment more than most. I've seen many potential strikes fold their wings and dive out of the way. Coinsedence maybe, but again, it's free and seems to work.
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Old 3rd Apr 2009, 17:43
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Freedom of information?

There was a Freedom of Information request for the final report in 2008 to be seen regading a serious flight safety incident in 2004 - result: No need for a pilot to see the result of their own Mandatory Occurrence Report.

The CAA always win...

http://www.informationtribunal.gov.u...uth05Mar08.pdf

Don't bother!

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Old 3rd Apr 2009, 18:06
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I can see it now, top US lawyer sues FAA for not giving crash victim choice on Airport of departure.
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Old 3rd Apr 2009, 18:07
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well, I thing this is not a good idea hide information related of this problem, not help to find a solution its better if FAA with companies work together and find the way to avoid this serious problem
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Old 3rd Apr 2009, 18:19
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The government agency argued that some carriers and airports would stop reporting incidents for fear the public would misinterpret the data and hold it against them.
In the horror show that is American "courts", it is lawsuits that have caused this reaction by the FAA. They cannot kill off the offending wildlife, but they, airlines and airport operators can get sued when the inevitable happens. Silly, but all-American.

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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 19:51
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Department of Transportation to reject FAA proposal

Among the high-profile boosters of releasing the information is Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, whose agency oversees the FAA. He said the comments ran "99.9 percent" in favor of making such information accessible.
Transportation Dept. Reverses FAA on Bird Strike Data - washingtonpost.com
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Old 23rd Apr 2009, 08:38
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Well that seems to have nailed that one on the head then.

Do you folks across the pond think airlines would be stupid enough to stop passing on reported bird strikes to the FAA because of this?
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