Ryanair incident Ciampino.
 

Any details anyone? Rwy closed until 1600.
NOTAM 1A6206/2008 refers

Inbound aircraft from Hahn had multiple birdstrikes in both engines on final approach.

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Hope all ok.

from a source in ryr the aircraft suffered double engine failure/surge or stall/double eng fire and had landing gear problems.....

what a time to have an incident like this when the white house is crawling with management.

i am sure the drivers did a good job getting it on the ground :ok:

ryr drivers are dam good drivers

This news story is Still HOT off the press,
very little (in fact NO) information on the media as of yet.

Lets hope everybody okay, it will be interesting to find out what confronted the crew during the approach....from the description above, you would not wish that experience on any pilot, and in this case the Ryanair flight crew.

The Ba 777 pilots during the "Heathrow Glide Approach" were portrayed as heroes. What kind of fate is in store for the Ryanair Pilots....?

No news anywhere yet just the Ryanair website, I hope the Media give the pilots praise for a job well done like the BA pilots, but my feelings tell me because we are a low cost airline it will be the opposite.....:ugh: No news on anyone injured though:ok:

I presume this is related, but my Italian is not great :ooh:

ADR

NoD

hey stall i hope you are right also,regarding the media.

was lo-co driver with the ryans,now long haul "operator" with someone else and i have to say my handling skills are a fraction of what they used to be :bored: lo-co does not mean lo-quality!!!!!!!

so i do have faith that these guys did a good job with very little time available.

fingers crossed,we shall wait and see

FROM THE RYANAIR WEBSITE

Hearing multiple bird ingestion on 1 engine during approach, decision to Go-Around, multiple bird injestion on 2nd engine. Aircraft stoped a couple of meters from the end of the runway with left main gear colapsed and all slides deployed. No apperant injuries.

If the landing gear collapsed, does anyone have any idea why this happened?

Well, if the post above yours has any truth in it, one can make a pretty good guess :ugh:

NoD

Chaps, can we stick to the details and leave out this nonsense?
Whatever comments will be made afterwards will no doubt be made once the Pprune Courts Martial has made a judgement and various armchair experts, flight sim enthusiasts and 14 year old boys have delivered their verdict. We don't have to express an opinion on every posting like those ghoulish 'expressions of sympathy' in every posting in a fatal accident thread. RYR staff don't need to come across as having an inferiority complex- those in the industry know their technical standards are second to absolutely none.

Hi-ALT, as a matter of interest, where did you get this information from?
Regards
HighLow

To Highlow, I am at LIRA, grounded because of this incident. Went out to have a look at the aircraft, this is the word circulating here! Incidently, I have noticed large flocks of Starlings around the airport recently.

Fair Play Hi-ALT,

I agree with the sentiments above, no reason to think RYR are not as professional as the next. In fact, due to the nature of their operation, Ryanairs standards and procedures are the envy of many operators.

1) Well Built Aircraft (the main gear must have been presented with an almighty belt to justify any collapse)

2) Well trained Flight Deck & Cabin
Result = No injuries / Fatalies :D




I am beginning to hate BIRDS more and more :\


High Low

Another similar thread with a bit of information:

FR's 737 Out Of Runway At CIA — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

Well, I must say, this photo tells me something else...

http://commenti.kataweb.it/commenti/...age/206930.jpg

SNAM,

What a load of cobblers, have you access to the FDR and CVR already??engines catching fire, engines 'stuck at 40% N1'.

Just wait for the FDR to be reviewed, before letting your imagination run wild.

IR

Without executing me for asking, can someone suggest a possible reason to decide a go-around after birdstrike and engine warning ?

Was the go-around actually executed, or the following events actually commanded to just press-on with landing ?

kingair9:

To me the picture seems consistent with the reported one-side tire failure due to hard landing.

What a scary prospect if this was indeed what happened,
you press the TOGA and then u get FIRE WARNING Bells....

Great job by the entire crew for getting everybody on the ground safe:ok:

You probably find it hard to find another situation recently that the crew decided to abort a missed approach...The decision to abort the GO Around this morning may have in fact saved many lives.

Granted you may get enough thrust off one engine thats surging to continue with the missed approach, but TWO surging engines, can anyone shed some light if the 800 is able to perform adequately in this situation...The commanders decision this morning has saved any lives in my opinion.

if this a/c was climbing with a positive rate before the second surge, raising the gear could have proved catastrophic.

Well Done All

There was some close-up pictures of this on the BBC news and you can clearly see blood splurts on the radome. So one thing for sure is that it suffered some sort of a bird strike.

Well done to the crew for safe evacuation and handling of this incident.

as mentioned before: aircraft was on short finals.
hit many birds.
commander decided to go-around ...


can anyone explain why the captain has decided to go around after a bird strike on short final? I´m only a hobby-flyer, but if something goes wrong on short final I´m glad if I can touch the ground as soon as possible...

looks like the left maingear punched through the wing...
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Yes, must've been a fairly heavy thump! It certainly looks
as if the maingear has pushed up through the wing.
Lucky all survived O.K.
Rome area is terrible for LOTS of birds at this time of year.
On the main migration route down to warmer climes.

Nice picture, you clearly see multiple birdstrikes and the result of an incredibly hard landing.

check out the blood and guts on the nosecone, engine cowling and inboard wing slats

To all crewmembers aboard the flight... a job well done:ok:

2 crew & 3 Pax > minor injuries

No we can't, as none of us were in the flightdeck at the time. The Captain's decision is final and was most likely based upon specific circumstances at the time. He/she may well have seen a further flock of birds below him for example.

look at the rudder on the big picture.....is there damage there or picture distortion?

Yeah the tail fin looks like it has a massive gash running top to bottom. But i think it must be reflection of airfield surroundings.

clearly a reflection
 

100% reflection

The rudder appears to be hard over right. If (and I am postulating from the picture alone so I caveat this statement heavily) the left engine pod had been in contact with the ground on the roll out it would produce a left yaw, hence the pilots 'could' have been counteracting this with opposite rudder.

Only a suggestion...

Anyway and much more importantly a very big congratulations to the crew for getting everyone off safe and alive. Aeroplanes can be replaced, people can't therefore you did the right thing!
:ok:

Birds
 

Hey guys ,

I had a Birdstrike in Ciampino ,they should do something against that Problem !! There are thousands of them and there is a big Three just next to the Terminal with 100 of those birds ! As i said i had one and i was suck there for hours !
And a couple times we almost had one !I dont know why they cant manage to do something against that !

Regards,

PS all respect to Ryanair Pilots and cabin crews !

Would that airframe be written off or would it be possible to be repair it?

Many variables, but on a complex twin jet its basically what you are trained to do.
If you have a (single) engine malfunction/failure (and depending on height/distance to RWY /weather etc) it is generally considered safer to Go Around and sort the problem out at a safe height and speed (probably in the Hold), do the correct engine drills, get the Emegency Services T'eed up, do your Performance Calculations, Brief the Cabin Crew and passengers - and then go in for a text book touchdown. No drama.

However, the real world doesn't always work that way, as was seen with BA038, and now this incident.

If they had no other choice the crew did a great job to pull this off without a catastrophe.

Well done lads.

Rudder looks fine (position is irrelevant now as there is no pressure in the hydraulics) - it is the gaping hole in the wing where the gear has penetrated the upper surface that is more destructive as a result of a very hard landing - possibly a write-off and Ryanair's first hull loss.

Nil casualties is the important thing.

A few more media reports / pictures...

Bird strike forces Ryanair jet into emergency landing in Italy | Business | guardian.co.uk

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Emergency landing after bird hits

Ryanair said the airport, which hosts several budget airlines, would be closed until sometime Monday afternoon.