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TyreCreep 20th May 2008 14:01

Well yes they do. Maybe it indicates the imperfect nature of auditing.

Baccara Bar 20th May 2008 14:43

Asian Aviation
 
There are three parts of Asian Aviation which people do not undertsand.it was written in Time Magazine years ago.

One: Rapid expansion so quick promotion to command.

Two: The hierachal system where the Captain will never listen to a F/O or a F/E as he considers himself a God and thinks of himself above everyone else. The cockpit is teamwork and even thought the Captain has the final say, he should be listening to other crew members who point out a mistake. But a F/O will never point out the Captain's mistake as he will think this will kill off his career.

Three: The loss of face system where the Captain will never go-around when things look bad as he knows the F/O will tell everyone else.

This is not racist but many blogs I put on this website are always argued by Asian pilots who justify the idocy in this game by calling me as racist. I don't care whether you are blue, black, white or yellow but the standards in Asia have to be changed and courses on how to make the Asian pilots think laterally.

Return to base 20th May 2008 18:20

Safety Flipflops??

I have seen then sat on the ground, no safety flip-flops but holding a piece of metal with their naked feet whilst using an angle grinder on the said piece of metal.
He obviously did not really require his toes and probably had enough children not to worry about an accident to his reproductive tackle :ugh:

I am currently having another house being built in Indonesia, I am refusing to watch the progress of it as I would probably have a heart attack. My Architect (wifes family) is watching over it, he is well used to their way of working and all the tricks they get up to if they are not watched.

Safety does not appear to be a top priority to an average Indonesian:{



rtb

Jakarta Jock 20th May 2008 20:52

Garuda Perth Incident
 
Octane with all due respect & IMHO Mandala is now probably better than Garuda when it comes to safety issues. These guys are doing a great job

ZFT 20th May 2008 22:46

Is WB still running this shower?

PK-KAR 21st May 2008 11:19

http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...200802821.aspx
Happened at 9May08, 1602Local. PK-GEF/737-8CX (32363) Denpasar - Perth Gotta be GA726...


The threshold of runway 21 was displaced as per NOTAM and the information was broadcast on the ATIS but during short final, the crew of the Boeing 737-800 queried the presence of vehicles on the runway and commenced a missed approach after receiving the information from ATC. During the second approach the aircraft appeared to aim short and was instructed to go around but the aircraft levelled and landed past the displaced threshold.

The investigation is continuing.
Kalo baca dari si ATSB docket, it was already NOTAM-ed.
I fear there's something wrong in the way GA issued the NOTAM, and training regarding temporary displaced threshold.

Mandala better than GA? I dunno, fatigue is a higher risk at Mandala at the moment. But they relieved 1 Captain from flying status not too long ago for "refusing to adhere to the new culture of abiding by the SOP."


One: Rapid expansion so quick promotion to command.

Two: The hierachal system where the Captain will never listen to a F/O or a F/E as he considers himself a God and thinks of himself above everyone else. The cockpit is teamwork and even thought the Captain has the final say, he should be listening to other crew members who point out a mistake. But a F/O will never point out the Captain's mistake as he will think this will kill off his career.

Three: The loss of face system where the Captain will never go-around when things look bad as he knows the F/O will tell everyone else.
Then I wonder on at least 3 airlines (though not included GA), the chief, and DFO called the F/Os and asked "do you want these guys to join the company or not, since it'll be you guys flying under them if we take them in" when the company was considering taking in a few captains from "a former airline with dodgy crew training reputation".

A friend in Garuda on the left seat have 1 pet hate... "first officers who just obey orders and are reluctant to challenge the captain outside the simulator"... He says, "I don't want to fly with these guys!"

After the GA200 case in JOG, we can see why he doesn't want to fly with "those types" of F/O...

PK-KAR

arba 24th May 2008 05:14

we can see why he doesn't want to fly with "those types" of F/O...

if you fly correctly, there should be no problem with "those type of F/O"

Swiss Cheese 27th May 2008 09:53

Indonesian Civil Aviation
 
Perhaps we should all get a glimpse of the IOSA Audit Report?

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Nominations for the one eyed man?!


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