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ACMS 10th Aug 2007 02:42

DANI:

the ER's have wider wingspans
wrong
Only the 777-200LR and the 777-300ER have raked wingtips and therefore a little more span, maybe 1 or 2 feet extra each side? All other 777 versions have the same wingspan.
SQ has 777-300ER's with raked wingtips but the a/c involved were 200ER's.
Besides, If you are that close as to worry about extra span then you should stop and get a marshal.

faheel 10th Aug 2007 12:22

Dunno about a marshall maybe a mashaller would be more usefull :)

ACMS 10th Aug 2007 13:31

yeah you're correct, I stewed over that one for a while.

sia sniffer 10th Aug 2007 15:13

SQ pilots rarely look out their windows, and just recently I had a similar incursion by an SQ 777 cutting us up. No doubt it was not worthy of a mention in the lyin city, just as other incidents involving SQ aircraft over the years.

showtime777 10th Aug 2007 23:22

dont believe the 200-ER has larger wingspan than the 200. Only the 200-LR and the 300-ER have larger winspan than the rest.

hangar 9 10th Aug 2007 23:56

All of what you say is correct, we will have to wait for official report to know reason for contact.

200LR and 300 ER wing span 212 ft 7 in
200, 300 and 200 ER wing span 199 ft 11 in

12 ft ..... two body lengths quite a good distance.

Worth considering wrong side of aircraft for a wing walker, everyone doing push out would have been blind sided by aircraft turning. Responsibility would have to have been with the taxiing aircraft.

allthatglitters 11th Aug 2007 04:04

Sounds like the headset man on push back aircraft will be spoken too.

hangar 9 12th Aug 2007 00:44

Oh I see where you are coming from " allthatglitters' Because everything points to the engineer NOT being responsible and the Pilot or airtaffic control being liable then the Engineer will wear the blame.

faheel 12th Aug 2007 03:31

"SQ pilots rarely look out their windows, and just recently I had a similar incursion by an SQ 777 cutting us up. No doubt it was not worthy of a mention in the lyin city, just as other incidents involving SQ aircraft over the years"
What an idiotic statement this is !
:*

422 24th Aug 2007 06:23

VIsual
 
Does any "true" T-7 drivers out there care to comment on whether they can see the wing-tips from the cockpit.?
Without winding down the cockpit windows that is.
:cool:
Please dun mention the cameras as they do not have a view of the wing tips
either. :mad:

gengis 24th Aug 2007 06:31

you cant see your wingtips on 777. unlike the 747-400

islandjumper 24th Aug 2007 07:56

Has there been any official explanation for the fender-bender?

anartificialhorizon 24th Aug 2007 08:10

From the net:


On 19 April 2005, a Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-200ER stopped 194 meters (640 feet) beyond a painted stop line at Bangkok International Airport. Its left wing tip was clipped by a Thai Airways International Airbus A330-300 taxiing for take-off


Anyone remember this one?

Charlie_Fox 24th Aug 2007 13:20

or SQ B747-400F hits Royal Air Maroc B737-500 at Brussels
11th September 2006.

Left Coaster 24th Aug 2007 13:26

Royal Air Maroc proven after investigation to be in the wrong. So put that one away...closed item.

parabellum 25th Aug 2007 06:11

Excuse me Gengis but from the LHS of a B747-400 you can see the number one engine and the wing tip! Honest!:)

gengis 25th Aug 2007 06:48

that's what i meant - on 747-400 you CAN see your wingtips (& yes the outboard engine too), unlike on the 777 you can't.

parabellum 25th Aug 2007 10:46

Sorry Gengis, I completely misread that, my mistake!:uhoh:


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