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Old 5th Aug 2007, 17:29
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SIA Ground Collision

Any information on the rumour about 2 B777 both from sinapore airlines colliding on the tarmac at Changi, both fuelled and loaded with pax?
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SINGAPORE -- Two Singapore Airlines planes hit each other's wings while preparing for take-off at the city-state's Changi Airport but no one was injured, the carrier said in a statement Sunday.
"It is reported that the wingtips of two aircraft came into contact while both aircraft were taxiing at low speed," company spokesman Stephen Forshaw said.
Both Boeing 777 aircraft suffered minor damage in the accident early Saturday morning and the passengers were transferred to other aircraft for their flights to Rome and Copenhagen.
The airline gave no details on the number of passengers who were onboard when the incident occurred.
Forshaw said an investigation was underway with pilots of both aircraft assisting the relevant authorities
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 18:21
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...who were operating the electrodes and current levels whilst they were hanging upside down.
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Now now Rainboe, it was never as bad as that
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One was taxing out of the apron, another pushing back.
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...who were operating the electrodes and current levels whilst they were hanging upside down.
The respective fleet manager, no doubt...unless of course it was him in one of 'em.
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Both were 777-200ER as far as I know
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I was told right from the beginning 'if you ever hit somebody, for goodness sake make it someone elses and not ours- don't take out two of ours'. Greatest sympathies to both crews, these things happen.
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Old 6th Aug 2007, 05:55
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the passengers were transferred to other aircraft
At least they had spare aircraft.
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On the salaries SIA pay their bog cleaners upwards in Singapore Dollars whilst revenue is mostly in other currencies they can well afford to have spare aircraft.
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The electrodes and technique for their usage, were only just obtained from BA after their recent incident!
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What recent BA incident? The similar pushback collision? As far as I am aware, it was as follows. A320 unable to park on stand due staff not ready and guidance not switched on, so stops partially in. 777 pushback crew pushes and clobbers 320. I think the result will be whenever stand guidance not switched on, aircraft will remain well clear of stand on centreline to make quite clear there is no room. Expect that overloaded place to become a little more congested until staff can be found to turn lights on.

As far as blame, I think it was the pushback crew, so as their union (is it the former TGWU or whatever they call themselves now) is so strong and runs the airport and BA anyway, it will be pat on the back and off you go! The blame will be put down to: 'difficult apron congestion leading to nasty unpleasant pushback conditions on a difficult day and a very big plane!' Electrodes definitely not used.

Arrival delays are such fun.

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Hangar 9: You'd make a great journo!

"Collision" is more of a "fireball, flaming wreckage, no survivors" type of word isn't it?

It was just a prang!
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Electrodes

Seem to remember seeing those in JED some years ago just inside the main gate at Saudi City!!
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So, let me guess, you and BA were sued jointly and severally by the Dulles baggage cart driver, his dependants, his employer, OSHA, IAD, NTSB, FAA, & TSA? Do tell.
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Dark snowy night IAD large apron. Baggage cart tried to dart in front, then decided to chicken out (too late). 4 on F/D, one a CAA inspector (RK), 12 kts. Little lurch felt, decided 'twas icy patch, saw nothing. Parked. G/E appears on FD white faced-' Gee, what did you hit?'....'Que?' #4 engine well scrunched, flashing red lights visible 1/2 mile away- reality hits home. 2 crew ride over to see- baggage cart on side, roof removed by #4, lady driver inside (lying on side) seeing stars, muttering 'I thought it was a DC9!' (it was not...try a 747). Off to hospital. F/O Rainboe (driving), sitting with CAA man, idly looks at cockpit escape rope (actually metal tape) and roof hatch and suggests, to save time, wraps said rope around neck and jumps out of hatch. CAA inspector says 'nah...you live to fight another day!'. Never heard more. Delayed 24 hours whilst very bent cowling repaired and hammered out.
Felt bad for BC driver. Would like to have gone to hosp and brought flowers, but US legal processes so funny and dangerous could not afford any danger of admitting liability. Never heard any more. Still feel guilty at appearing so heartless (yes- Rainboe has a heart.....somewhere). But that's the law for you.
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Journo speak: Two fully loaded and fully fueled aircraft collided on the ground sparking fears of another Tenerife.
Pilot speak: They pranged on the tarmac
Management speak: Two company aircraft 'kissed' wings.
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Old 8th Aug 2007, 09:05
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2 SIA B777 clipped wings while taxiing

It happened on 03Aug07 @0110Z (saturday 0110hrs LT)
Both planes full loaded with pax and fuel clipped on their wing tips.
Taxiing at low speed SQ366 to Rome came into contact with a pushing back SQ352 bound for Copenhagen. 420 pax were transferred to other SIA planes. Their journey was delayed by about 3 hours. No one was injured and damage was "minor" at wing tip.
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If you taxi along EP now you see that the yellow line is blackened on its original path and repainted 2 meters east of it. It must have been done just lately.

I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the taxi incident. The ERs have wider wing spans! And SQ always uses the ERs for the Europe flights departing at 1 after midnight.

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Old 9th Aug 2007, 21:19
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Sack them, immediately!
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