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canadair 15th Mar 2007 16:29

perhaps yer man Occam would have had reason to ponder his conclusions, had he taken into account the repercussions of introducing a lump of tire to Boyles and Charles combined gas law?

as an aside though, full credit for bringing the theories of a 14th century franciscan monk into a discussion on a rejected takeoff :D

very Monty Pythonish!

Haaan 15th Mar 2007 17:43

The question still stands. Why did the nose wheel colapse.
Did the colapse of the nose wheel cause the accident or
was the colapsing nose wheel a result of an accident?

Dengue_Dude 15th Mar 2007 19:37

Biman's Accident rate
 
I know absolutely no details about this particular accident.

When you consider how many DC10s, A310s and F28s they have (something around 15 aircraft TOTAL), their accident rate is appalling.

In the last 5 years they have seriously damaged or destroyed four aircraft to my knowledge (ie 25% of their fleet) and most of those were crew error.

Having flown with them on contract for 12 months, I am very clear why this happens - they are vastly over confident and display levels of arrogance that are truly scary. This is however offset by the good pilots who are as good as any in the world - sadly there are not enough of them.

Once again, good luck dictates there were no serious casualties.

PsychedelicGoat 15th Mar 2007 22:23


Did the colapse of the nose wheel cause the accident or
was the colapsing nose wheel a result of an accident?
aha! The chicken or the egg hypothesis... :}

Five Green 16th Mar 2007 08:33

Ahh Mr Watson....
 
It is possible for the nose gear to get severely dammaged after the nose gear tire goes flat departs the rim and any side load is placed on it. ie trying to straighten the a/c as it swerves from main wheel burst etc.

But hard to say without any evidence as obviously there are quite a few possible scenarios.

robin747 16th Mar 2007 11:54

BIMAN DXB incident video
 
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/476000...dubai_airport/

:rolleyes:

ironbutt57 16th Mar 2007 12:13

from the looks of things, the drag link must have failed to allow the nose gear to fail aft...what precipitated that is anyone's guess at this stage..

Jazbag 16th Mar 2007 16:45

In my part of the world a Runway inspection is mandatory after any aircraft has reported a tire burst/bird hit before another aircraft is allowed to use the runway.

Did anyway say anything about extra fuel?

kumul1 17th Mar 2007 02:57

The operative word there being "Reported", Jazbag. I'm sure the same would have been done in this case.

easyduzzit 6th May 2007 15:07

SO..... Is that it?!!!! Case closed?
No more questions, No more explanations?

I heard that Biman were planning to sue the Dubai Government for "negligence" in their safety of operational runways(pardon-Runway)
Now that, I think, would be a step in the right direction!
Best of Luck to them, I hope they succeed.

The stricken aircraft is presently being dismantled, and paletized, engines cowls etc. What for dont know.
The Nose gear "was" broken off backwards & embedded into the fwd lower belly, below the fwd cargo comp.
Seeems to strengthen reports that the nose was off, when some significant piece of debris; like piece of a wheel rim, ex B742 F, was encountered, causing crew to then abort the take-off.
(this after a previous landing Freighter 'had reported' possible contamination & damage to their own craft)
RTO braking plus the inertia, would have smashed the NG back onto the deck causing its aftward failure! as mentioned it was flush into the lower forward fuselage.

Any thing else that's surfaced since the abrupt silence???:oh:


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