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Adam Air B737 Heavy Landing
Another accident/incident today involving Adam Air, reported hard/baulked landing at Surabaya.
Runway was blocked, airport closed, several injuries including pax trapped in the aircraft. Conflicting reports as to the extent of the damage. Aircraft has been towed to Merpati Maintenance Center. No matter how many accidents/incidents/writeoffs/loss of life, if they don't change, this will continue unfortunately. I guess they'll have to lower their lowest fares again now! PK-KAR |
OK, airframe bent behind emergency exit, by about >3 degrees by the looks of it.
Windshear suspected. |
Fuselage bent?
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That's what the news reports say e.g. Reuters and the Herald Tribune. Very bent, due to a hard landing. :{
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2g landing? Arghhhhhh........................ airplane abuse? I beg your pardon!
Well i s'pose, they'd be able to hire some guys to fly the airplane for 2,000,000 rupiahs (US$200). Good luck, guys :ugh: |
Picture
Reuters has a picture, here. Any Boeing employees should exercise caution when viewing this image. :eek:
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Tis bent indeed my friend... my friends in Surabaya are already placing their bets on the price of aluminium saucepans for next month! :rolleyes:
http://www.liputan6.com/files/daerah...07cadamair.jpg Bent? Hell yea! PK-KAR |
What bout slipped discs among the passengers????????? Or whiplash????
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I am surprised that they are still operating. Why do people still want to fly with them?
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Bit late on the round-out Hoskins......
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Better pictures here, sorry its so long! http://foto.detik.com/index.php/home...kanal/157/id/1
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Natalia Budihardjo, a regional spokeswoman for PT Adam Skyconnections Airlines, said "The sudden stop of the plane was the best decision by the pilot for the safety of the 130 passengers,"
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faintly amusing
You have all been duped my friends.
That is the new aerodynamic test bed for the Dreamliner Constellation series of Boeing- with banana shaped substitutes for drag reducing fairings once called Whitcombe bodies- a la Convair C990. See how the excess heat of Indonesia has bent the locally cured carbon fried fibre? Sour buyer it happende at you say - you better Adam Air and believe it... You want bendy boeing mister- cheap cheap.... |
Jesus Christ, how long can a family owned company run for???
Non acceptable standards at all, but they keep on doing it...maybe they have some big shot in the government, who knows, sounds like it otherwise they'd be out of business long time ago... Their logo should be; "Adam air, everytime you fly us you are closer to heaven" Hehehehe.... |
Or rather closer to hell, since they seem more adept at attempting to drive their airplanes down INTO the earth than keeping them above it.:ugh:
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A better business plan for Adam Air:
Why not chose or let passengers fly the trips, sort of like a car rental? They could save the ridiculous high pilot wages they pay!!! This could also make a new reality TV show-like Airline. |
maxalt quotes Roger Bacon -
Bit late on the round-out Hoskins...... Hey, it looks ferriable to me... |
Hey, it looks ferriable to me... Sad, really. |
Heh, just outside Juanda airport are large Maspion factories. Maspion is Indonesia's largest maker of aluminium items (pots/ pans etc.)
Now I know why they are there - inexhaustable supply of cheap scrap metal! |
Grounded
Seems the Adamair's B737-300 (all 7 of them) have been grounded.
PK-KAR, Adam Air officials explained that Wednesday's accident occurred after the aircraft encountered poor weather conditions - heavy rains and strong wind. 'A few minutes before landing, it was reported that the plane received wind pressure from above, or what we call a downdraft,' Hartono, Adam Air's safety and security director, was quoted as saying by The Jakarta Post. Television footage showed the Boeing 737-300 stranded on the airport runway with its rear section bent downwards and apparently a vertical split in the fuselage. The incident caused the body of the plane cracking, creating an angle of some 35 decrees, according to the television. But there is no report of serious wound and casualty from the incident. http://news.monstersandcritics.com/a...r_hard_landing http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...eut/index.html |
Having lived in Indonesia (and having an Indonesian wife) I can assure you that people will continue to fly with these clowns, until (if) they are closed down - which given their connections is unlikely.
Why? 1. They are cheap. 2. Indonesians generally have no concept of "what would happen if..." - look at how they cram 5 people on a moped and set off across Jakarta to visit the inlaws. |
They did not waste any time painting the whole aircraft white.
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Nah....this is just the test bed for the drooping tail option, copied from the kneeling bus. Saves the need for airstairs....
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With their reputation, I'm not surprised they were prepared to get the a/c painted as fast as they did. They unfortunately seem to get plenty of practise.
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:D
Some official comments on 'painted white incident', rough translation. Angkasa Pura (Juanda Airport) Head of PR, Edmundus Priyono : "It's just temporary, no problemo, it's their plane anyway" "It's their plane, they own the plane, it is their rigth to do so" Chairman Subcommittee of KNKT (National Transportation Safety Committee), Indonesian Agency responsible for investigating transportation accident, Fran Wenas : "Team is already in Juanda, color alteration does not interfere with investigation process." "Maybe they (Adam Air) did not want their airplane to be so obvious" Both are not consulted first by Adam Air before repainting the aircraft white. Those comments disregard Indonesian Law and ICAO adopted as a Legal Framework for KNKT regarding evidence. Clearly Adam Air has tempered with the evidence. |
it is quite common for airline liveries to be covered after incidents. Air France were quick to blank the tail of that Fokker that got bent last month, and Brittania did the same with the 757 that broke up after leaving the runway a few years back. No idea whether or not its interference with evidence though.
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I believe it's due to ownership reasons: an airplane that's written-off in an accident becomes property of the insurance company. Hence the removal of markings and registrations. (Or something like that.) However, painting a wreck this thoroughly seems pretty remarkable to me.
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Very much a missed marketing opportunity really... why white? Would have thought bright banana yellow would have been more appropriate.
Ouch, when that hit the ground that woud have definitely hurt a little.. hope the poor passengers were ok. |
mmmmm.....must have been a very very hard hit:confused:
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Ouch.
Hard to beleive people will still fly with clowns like this given that the wreckage of their last crash still hasn't been found. Is stuff like this covered up over there so people don't know about it or are people really stupid enough to keep using them? |
They did it in less than 24 hours after the incident, before any formal investigation took place. For me that's kindda odd. :bored:
And now the owner + management is denying the cracking body of the airplane, said it's fine and sitting in the Merpati Hangar in front of reporters and jurnalist, saw that in Metro TV (Indonesian CNN-like). What do they expect us to believe, that the airplane is in for a tire change? Their denials is out of this world. Everybody in Indonesia knows it's bullsh*t, every people I've talked to said it was cracked and bented like a hump whale. They KNOW! Adamair ticked box employee was interviewed by Metro reporter and was asked why Adamair canceled/delayed other fligths and were there any customer returning tickets, demanding refunds. His response was business is as usual. "The one you see in the information board (cancelled) has already departed an hour ago, full sitting". Yeah ..right. And that there were no ticket cancelation by customer. After that interview, Metro runned a footage of qeuing tickets holder returning them and wanting refunds. Gotcha, again. Apparantly denials is their game now. Nice company damage control startegy.:ok: |
Last year Indonesia had an aviation incident or accident, on average, every ten days. This info compliments of the Idonesia aviation authorities.
Jakarta and Juanda airspace, on a good day is chaotic and on a bad day just down right dangerous. |
For me is a bit strange that landing gear didn't collapsed first...
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Having lived in Indonesia (and having an Indonesian wife) I can assure you that people will continue to fly with these clowns, until (if) they are closed down - which given their connections is unlikely. Why? 1. They are cheap. 2. Indonesians generally have no concept of "what would happen if..." - look at how they cram 5 people on a moped and set off across Jakarta to visit the inlaws. "There are three kinds of people: Those who learn from their own mistakes, those who learn from others' mistakes, and those who never learn." :( |
I suppose we have all heard of Official white washes in the past......But this paint job takes the biscuit !!!!!.
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(Self-EDITed: erroneous info)
PK-KAR |
Learned contributors,
Will the FDR be able to give details such as rate of decent and G loadings? Be lucky David |
They did not waste any time painting the whole aircraft white. For me is a bit strange that landing gear didn't collapsed first... look at how they cram 5 people on a moped and set off across Jakarta to visit the inlaws. |
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