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denkraai 12th Aug 2006 11:46

KLM 737 slides off the runway at AMS
 
Translation from a dutch article:
a 737 slid off the runway and got stuck in the mud with its nosewheel.
Pax disembarked via stairs and transported to terminal with buses.
Heavy rain reported during this time, no injuries:) .
Flight originated from Heathrow.

BusyB 12th Aug 2006 11:49

Maybe his glasses were in the hold!!:hmm:

DonLeslie 12th Aug 2006 12:50


Originally Posted by BusyB
Maybe his glasses were in the hold!!:hmm:

He probably wasn't able to clean them, because he couldn't bring his cleansing lotion :}

DL

RAT 5 12th Aug 2006 14:03

Settle down in the back, and stop disrupting the class for those more conscientious students.

May we please have some more specific info on this? Your opening post is very vague.

A-FLOOR 12th Aug 2006 14:07

Images here

euroflyer 12th Aug 2006 14:16

Rumours are they overshot or skidded off during taxi.
Seems they also had incident in BCN with a 737 during landing in heavy weather. Aircraft was written off.
Glad nobody was hurt

xetroV 12th Aug 2006 14:40


Originally Posted by euroflyer
Rumours are they overshot or skidded off during taxi.
Seems they had a similar incident in BCN with a 737 during landing in heavy weather. Aircraft was written off.
Glad nobody was hurt

You are comparing apples and oranges, and your facts are wrong. That BCN accident did not happen in heavy weather; it was due to a mechanical failure of the nosewheel steering mechanism, caused by a birdstrike. The only similarity is the colour of the airplanes.

More images here.

fyrefli 12th Aug 2006 14:45


Originally Posted by DonLeslie
He probably wasn't able to clean them, because he couldn't bring his cleansing lotion :}

DL

The article linked to with images actually says a spotter referring to restrictions at the departure airport (LHR) joked:

"Maybe they smeared their shampoo over the nosewheel" ;)

Cheers,

Rich.

euroflyer 12th Aug 2006 15:05

xetroV
Ok not too sure about the weather in BCN at the time although I landed the same day in heavy rain but the facts are both KLM 737s skidded off the runway after landing, that was my point.

xetroV 12th Aug 2006 16:42


Originally Posted by euroflyer
xetroV
Ok not too sure about the weather in BCN at the time although I landed the same day in heavy rain but the facts are both KLM 737s skidded off the runway after landing, that was my point.

Still apples and oranges: the Barcelona accident happened immediately after touchdown at high speed (80+ knots). Not comparible in any way with this incident, which (judging from the photographs, e.g. this one) happened at a very low taxi speed: the nosewheel of the airplane has barely left the concrete surface of the taxiway, and there seems to be no damage whatsoever.

PEI_3721 12th Aug 2006 16:45

Moderators, will you please act against those few unruly posters who have nothing of value to offer in this forum. They have no place in a Professional discussion and only disrupt the flow of information and understanding essential to the continued safety in our operations.
Any mishap, however minor has something for us to learn from. Everyone should heed the ‘lessons’ in such incidents, be these technical, environmental or just plain human errors.
Please delete this post
to de-clutter this thread after taking action.

euroflyer 12th Aug 2006 16:52


Originally Posted by xetroV
Still apples and oranges: the Barcelona accident happened immediately after touchdown at high speed (80+ knots). Not comparible in any way with this incident, which (judging from the photographs, e.g. this one) happened at a very low taxi speed: the nosewheel of the airplane has barely left the concrete surface of the taxiway, and there seems to be no damage whatsoever.

Whatever:ugh:

xetroV 12th Aug 2006 17:22


Originally Posted by euroflyer
Whatever:ugh:

If your goal (like mine) is to learn something from this incident, it doesn't help to compare it with an accident that happened under totally different circumstances. You said these occurances are "similar", but in reality there's little to suggest they are. I honestly thought I was helping you (and others reading this forum) by pointing out the obvious differences, but apparantly you had other intentions when replying to this thread. Whatever, indeed. http://www.xs4all.nl/~olie/fok/smilies/Smilies/puh.gif

euroflyer 12th Aug 2006 17:39

They are 'similar' because they are 2 incidents involving KLM 737's skidding off during the landing phase...

Dreamer320 12th Aug 2006 18:14

I flew into AMS today at around midday. There were some isolated CBs in the area, and the runways were damp/wet. I think a thunderstorm had occured earlier that morning.
In AMS you are spoilt for choice with runways, with no less than 10 or 12 options, all with ILSs, all long and wide, all with good surfaces...
ATC are excellent, and must have a WX radar since they always vector me around CBs.
I guess everyone has bad days...
Would be interesting to know how this happened.

euroflyer 13th Aug 2006 13:07


Originally Posted by RAT 5
euroflyer:
Back in your box and speak only when spoken to. You have made a right prat of yourself with your comments. If you have an axe to grind with KLM take it elsewhere. Meanwhile this is a forum for professionals to exchange ideas and comments in an educated and professional manner. Apples & oranges are similar in that they are fruit, but they taste very different and do not grow on the same tree, and often not even in the same country.

RAT 5 - I wonder who the 'PRAT' is with a name like yours.
I am sorry if I touched a soar nerve. I am not the one responsible for these incidents, just stating (on a rumours network after all) that 2 landing incidents involving the same airline occured recently. What is wrong with that?
You state that this is a forum for professionals to exchange ideas and comments in a professional manner so why are you expressing yourself with a childish and aggressive response.
If you're a pilot, I hope you do not have the same attitude in the cockpit.

RAT 5 13th Aug 2006 14:18

euroflyer:

An unreserved apology. Completely out of order.

Rat

ray cosmic 13th Aug 2006 19:05


Originally Posted by Imminent Boner
Moderatorsh, moderatorsh, you musht shtop thish nonshenshe!

shtop making fun of the Dutsh:}

Scottie 14th Aug 2006 07:12


Originally Posted by ray cosmic
shtop making fun of the Dutsh:}

There was me thinking it was Sean Connery!

ray cosmic 14th Aug 2006 14:24

Sean Connery is Dutch? :}


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