BM lightning strike
 

Apparently a BM flight from Glasgow to Leeds-Bradford made an emergency landing at Leeds-Bradford tonight after a lightning strike.

If this is another EMB being struck by lightning I'll soon start wondering if they aren't the biggest lightning attracters around? ;)

Heard on the company grapevine that it was a Saab.

There were two lightning strikes, but the Flight from GLA had the real problems.

The Saab flight from EDI reported a lightning strike 10 minutes earlier but sustained no significant damage.

Unfornunately, the Saab operating the GLA flight copped a big one on the Radome and lost all electrical power, Not nice on an EFIS aircraft!

The crew did a good job and got it down safely though. Well done Lads.


edited by the spellin police!

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Cheers Dagger, still recovering though!

A passenger quote, from the BBC report:

"It was a very traumatic experience. But the pilot and the crew were fantastic. They were so calm and collected."

Can't ask for a better compliment!

Flying C:
Mucho well done, [if I read you right] It sounded rather hairy. Especially impressed that you managed to take a pic of the incident [as seen on BBC web report] :) :) :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/1389676.stm



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In the post immediately above the news article alluded to an Iranian aircraft possibly lost due to a lightning strike. Does any body have any information about the incident and what kind of aircraft was involved.

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The Cat

Lu, try http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1339578.stm That may be the one referred to - a Yak-40.

Well done guys you obviously coped with a nasty situation. See some horrible build ups over Germany and wouldn't like to get hit even in my steam driven old bus.

Amazed at the standard of reporting of this event! Also astounded at Flying C's photo of the lightning bolt that hit the left wing (or was it the radome?)....Jeez, I ain't seen lightning like that since I was in the carribean!

Must have been a hot day in leeds!

Dagger-D

Could this be a "stock photo" the BBC have used on their website?

There was a half hour storm over Manch yesterday,as it was clearing I asked tower to get an update on its progress.They spoke to radar who appeared,perhaps unsurprisingly,to be too busy to answer.The tower suggestion to get airborne and have a look at it was not what I wanted to hear(esp as the 10,000' wind would take this nasty in the general direction of my departure).The Emb145,as someone said earlier,seems to attract strikes;it too is EFIS equipped.On the ground the wx radar just paints ground returns and the LSS is usless.Are there ATC objections to contacting a wx radar equipped freq prior to departure?Which is likely to be the least busy?

Phil...the photo comment was a P*** take..honest. I'm sure you're right, looks like a stock photo, and a good one at that.

Seriously though, the two BBC reports I've seen bear little resemblance to what actually happened.

Alosaurus,

I'm surprised to hear that in a modern A/C such as the EMB145 that the WX radar is no use on the ground.

My experiences so far with Wx radar is that it's not much help between the ground and 4000ft, especially in the descent!

A mate of mine flys a 737 he tells me that the Radar is good and can even be used to look ahead at weather from the end of the runway.

So whats the difference between these radar systems?

Have a look at this: http://lightning.pwr.eng.osaka-u.ac....emp/plane.html

Nice to be on the ground and taking the picture.

It wasn't me!!!

From the BBC report:

"But a spokeswoman for the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said lightning strikes were "relatively rare" as pilots tried to avoid storm clouds."

Unless the storms are hanging around London, in which case there are too many aircraft and not enough sky. Or perhaps there is enough sky, but ATC is somewhat overbusy and can't let people nip around the dodgy bits quite as briskly as they might wish.

Been a bit tight over the past couple of days, what?

R

Dagger-D, on our new DHC8s the radar is WOW inhibited whilst on the ground.

DD-The 737 has a different wx radar installation.Don't know the details but there is a current thread in Techlog which is worth a look.

RAFAT, so has the 145, however you can bring it back to life when on the ground by pressing the STAB button 4 times. Its designed that way to stop you frying the ground crew. The poor guy on the SAAB must have taken one hell of a hit, it happened to me about 5 years ago going into MAN from ABZ,

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INKJET, how/why does the lightening strike affect the Saab's steering in both tiller actuated and differential brake modes?

You guys don't know the day you were born. The ultimate experience is flying a clapped out old ex-Pan Am stovepipe 707-321 with ancient wax radar through the ITZ. Character building stuff. Anyone out there remember 'SL better known as Spread Legs.

RAFAT, not sure what you mean, the tiller/brakes+ landing gear are operated hydraulically,however they won`t operate with out the genny`s on(to much load on the batteries) unless selected to overide. From memory the flaps were also operated from the hydraulics, if you lost that lot it would be quite hard work relying on r/thurst to bring to a halt as the steering tends to have a mind of its own at low speed, sounds like the guys did well to control it on the ground, must have done some serious damage the SAAB`s a tough old bird.

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:) not impressed at all. :) :) try flying in africa without a radar,into a CB, and see what your windshields and radome look like afterwards. :) :) .this must be really big news here in europe. :)really lmao, :) :)

Nightflyer,
you also had the AVQ10???

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INKJET, I should have made myself a little clearer perhaps, but I ask because the GLA-LBA Saab was evacuated on the runway, so I just wondered why he wasn't able to taxi clear.

RAFAT, sorry i didn`t know the details

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INKJET .. dont hang these guys out to dry on a public forum. I am sure we will all know what went on when the ASR appears, maybe we should leave the ruminating till then ....

Never been hit by lightening but i bet it shakes u up....

HP don`t get me wrong, i`am 100% with these guys, lets be honest you don`t know how you will react in a tough spot until your there, it`s just an observation, its seems to me that most "hero`s" get shot!!.I`am just glad they all walked away. no offence meant

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RAFAT

HP any feed back through your reporting system as to what went wrong? we can all learn from this event.

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Thanks for the info. BTW, without taking this thread off the subject for too long, how is the pencil jet ?

3 pages on a lightning strike!!

God life must be dull over there for this to even rate a mention, let alone this volume of replies!!

RAFAT Life is good on the barbie jet+ you get home every night.

Kaptin M Thanks for your post.

Lets have some of that pilot S**T Mav

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alosaurus

both the app and area radars at Man are computer processed and the picture we are presented with has had all unwanted cluutter removed.Therefore it is virtually impossible to give you an accurate overall picture of the position of any weather returns because 95%+ of the weather returns have been removed electronicaly.Some very heavy returns do get displayed sometimes and it does no harm to ask