Have I missed something?

Was not yesterday meant to be a rather significant point in negotiations, or was I dreaming?
Has anyone heard anything?

They say no news is good news.......NOT!!!!

CIV5C,

Thanks a lot.

Metal

Its definitely Aeroflot then cos "The SUN" says so today, ha ha.

I understand that rentals of the video "The Van" have gone through the roof in the Shannon area, I thought that you guys were using this for your Chip Van initial training.. :)

Good Luck, i hope that at some stage the VEI management realise that they are dealing with humans and not mushrooms....

Mutt.

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I just heard, announcement on Tuesday 20 Mar.How many times have we heard that.
Getting slightly fedup with the same boring insulting crap from SNN.

Percy Dragon,

Thanks for the input but methinks it's yourself that is showing yourself up as a "Dunphy". (Please refer to Roddy Doyle's "The Van" for clarification of the term "Dunphy").

Thank you, your points are valid but remember, this enterprise will be located within the juristiction of Ireland and the items you highlight have long before now been addressed. By "us" you might now infer that a "Heads of Agreement" arrangement has been entered into by myself and Getafix and you'd be correct to do so. Negotiations were difficult but businesslike and conditions agreed to the satisfaction of all.

Banking Letters of Offer are issued and being perused as we speak by our previously referred to "good accountant".

As for the Health Authority regulations we have friends in Government, Opposition and anywhere else we require them to ensure smooth delivery of all required paperwork.

Not knowing me or Getafix, I have to forgive you your reference to the "local laddies". If you did know us, you'd know that this issue is in fact not an issue - but that's another matter. Granted though your heart was in the right spot.

Difficulty now is how to co-manage the business and a career in flying in the hopeful event of negotiations in Shannon being successful. Plan is to have myself and Getafix rostered alternate days as my father always said that in a cash business you have to be there yourself.

Watch this space and watch for future IPO because believe me this is only the beginning.

"Salt & Vinegar?"

Metal.

Mickey,

Let me know where your gonna park up the chippie van and maybe we can organise a night of dancin around the van.
Are you taking bookings for xmas doo's yet?

Anyway Ive waited long enough Im off..

Good luck to all ye that stay on and hope to keep in touch..

Yes things are looking up I/we have secured a
contract to supply a new kind of burger made from that wounderful pudding made in Collins country not to far from whencs he fell.
But as things are in an advanced state I like our mismanagent will say nothing and keep saying it.
That gives me a real scence of power now I know what it feels like.

Remember the nappy(diaper)-Life, and the airline industry remind Me of the sh!t sandwich-"the more bread you have, the less sh!t you have to take"

Whats happening lads. You've moved to page 2. I'm still saying my prayers for you all each night before bed!! And checking this thread for possible good news. Your antipodean cousins seem to be going from strength to strength. Talking of 17 aircraft by mid next year... including NG's. Whish you could all emmigrate down here... the little pub next door has Guiness on tap! I'll shed a tear in my next pint for you all and keep my fingers crossed for at least some sort of a result.

Good luck old friends.

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Life is what happens to you while you make plans - enjoy it!

Clive,

How would a mobile chipper do outside that pub next door to you? Myself and Getafix thinking of going international with the business.

E-Mail on its way to you.

Regards,

Metal

Lads! lads! lads!

You're all getting ahead of yourselves,....has anyone applied for the official CVOC (Chip Van Operators Certificate) The department will be on you like a light if your manuals are'nt up to scratch! And another thing, how many hours has anyone spent in the Deep Fat Frying simulator.....c,mon now! :)

Ahh! Clive me old mate how ya doin?

Thanks for the prayers and thoughts, seems that they're about the only 'ting that we got' at the moment.
Might look to come down and join you if nothing is resurrected out of these ashes. (What’s the chance of a direct entry command in Ansett?)

I am glad the negotiations with the potential investors are taking this long. Running headlong into this business (or any business) without a sound business plan with research and marketing analysis, will only result in a two pot, half shod (night) mare, and we'd end up working under the exact same conditions that we are now, one of reaction not pro-action.

By structuring and enforcing an effective strategy from the outset, they will be able to avoid history repeating itself. (Anybody remembers AB Airlines, a classic case in point.) So hopefully the time being taken at the moment by the potential investors is to create exactly that, an effective strategy.

The potential exists for the airline to succeed out of the South and West of Ireland into Europe, if it is managed effectively. It will be necessary to employ competent, well respected, experienced people to hold key roles within management positions of the new company. (Some of this quality already exists within the present regime; engineering comes to mind the most efficient department at present. Funnily enough they are also the most informed. Communication?) To obtain this standard of personnel the new investors will have to be prepared to pay for them.

Rumour has it that the Fleet Captain has just resigned and headed for greener pastures, (or blue as the case maybe, if so another one of the good eggs gone) so I would expect a number to follow if a guarantee of salary isn't forthcoming during further negotiations.

Clive I agree with you and the Late Great John Lennon 'Life IS what happens to you while your busy making other plans'

Gentlemen,

Got just the thing for you, complete set of operations manuals for a 1978 Ford Transit Chipper Wagon. I would be happy to photocopy as many sets as you need to get going. Also have a set of RAC Cork Approach maps. Will of course be glad to supply a set of these for you as well.

Ah, problem!

Have been informed that the practice of photocopying these publications is illegal!!

Fear not, I've been promised a 'blind eye' dispensation within the hour.

On Friday we received the following:

'........This process has gone on far longer than I would have expected or wished....etc etc I will make a further announcement on Tuesday 20th March.........'

Today is the 20th, anyone heard anything?

I didn't think so.

I have heard from a couple of contracting companies today, that will take us immediately. Contracts in both Europe and Asia. E-mail me for their addresses.

Time to go.

Its nice to see the glorious two(TCC and the silent Gob*****) pulling rank and taking all the flying in BRU,I`am sure they are not getting allowances and are of course paying for their own flights!!!!!!!
.....everybody is equal but some are more equal than others.....as a pig said once.

Well thats me finished,nice working with you.
Best of Luck to everyone,it was good while it lasted.See you around. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

Not only are them two taking all the flying, they both travelled to BRU on scheduled EI flights(no low cost operators for them) and are being put up in the hotel as the appts are gone. How much did that lot cost then. Any body checking the Tech Log for more erors.

Mr hooley, don't have your email but interested in contract for about 3 months till new job starts. can you email me with details. if your unsure of my id then ask angus, billie or robbie.
Cheers mate

Seymore contact me at [email protected]

Well its the 21st and still no word.
They didn't even have the courtesy to tell us the up date as per MH memo even if there was no up date.
I hope the new owners will have the sense to to dispence with their services for the sake of everyone.
The incompetence is astounding beyond belief,
you wouldn't treat a dog this way or a camel.
If they can't fill a tech log between them then how can we expect them to leads us to a profitable company.
In modern business your staff is recognised as a key asset and management/regognition of that asset is an expertise in itself - need I say more.

Does anybody else get the feeling that the Virgin Sun sale has been a lot quicker, and much better handled than the sale of VEI? Maybe the "management team with proven track record" could get some hints from them, and let us know what's going on!

Skye Pilot I would be interested in those addresses.E-mail as above.
Looking forward to hearing from you.

http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/eek.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/eek.gifIts all gone quiet on the western front :rolleyes: :rolleyes: http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

Right as most of you know i'm off.........
If anyone needs a bed during prolonged [email protected]
Otherwise.....Right lads its been wonderful!
TED http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/cool.gif

Is this farewell piss up happening this weekend at LGW, have heard nothing. I'll be going if it is.

All this hanging around is getting too exiting for me... Anyone fancy a beer? Spoke to Angus so me n him are meeting up at the Foresters on Wed the 11th April at about 17:30 - 18:00 for a swift one or three, so if anyone can make it Email me or Angus. EI guys welcome to stay over at mine if you want.
Ted see your finaly GOing good luck see in the bottle top soon....

well lads it does look like the end, money has been promised all week and the kitty is still empty. Martin all credit to him is trying hard but the ball seems to be in the investors court and they seem to want to hold on to it.

Agreed, no doubt Martin is doing all he can but he who pays the piper calls the tune - just a pity the investor can't make up its mind as to what tune it wants played.

You really have to wounder are there any investors there.
Is this a show just to shut the place down and save face all round espically Dickys,
Are they going to refund the Irish Tax payer the money they recived in grants??
So many questions left unanswered.


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Oh well,what to do!!!!

As we start the final week of protective notice for the flightcrews and the office staff are also on notice I wonder if anyone can describe the situation as anything else but weary. It seems that the paperwork excercise is complete and we are awaiting the money. The major question being will it arrive and if it does will it be on time. Is the second of April the FINAL date??? That is tomorrow week.

V1mcg,

How ya doin mate? Still holding out I see, as am I.

I have started looking around though, not much for skippers at the moment but PARC has plenty for FO's.

Have you contacted them?

I'll buy a heiny for you next time I see you at 'Alexanders'

Gidday to the rest of the lads!

as you are all aware the paperwork is done we just waitn for the dosh.

Rest assured,this will happen by the end of the week.

I will of course repeat this message next week.

Well Monday Monday is all but over and no sign of the money from our lookouts in Dover.
The week will pass by and only TVN will Fly as all the rest have moved on from being
Virgins.
If the money arrives were sure to survive but this time without the wallons. Their future is clear they will dump the 73's and get an AOC for balloons

Well lads all down to SNN to pick up the cheques and piss up.SNN on Monday LGW on Tuesday BRU on Wed GO on Thursday.

yeah just got the notice, looks like the investors are not investing then. Its not GO Thursday, its EZY Friday. Good luck to all at VEI it was great working with all of you.

So sad, it could have been the best out there

Has there been a development? Investors pull out?

You betya the idiots couldn't even close us down correctly every man for himself.

How many Pilots will be looking ? DHL need a few.

Does anyone have any definate developments.

Have the proposed investors pulled out. Not rumours please. Has anyone been told anything.

Just read my own post, asking for no rumours on a rumour page (PPRUNE), really good.

So are we having a P45 party then!!!!!