Air France pilot "amuck" in CPH
According to Danish news agency Ritzau a 43-year old Air France pilot has been arrested and charged by Danish police after allegedly headbutting a CPH employee during an argument. According to the news agency the employee was in the process of refueling the plane when the argument started...
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Did he get sufficient fuel?
regards |
You sure do, and now he is in prison for it. Good thing for him he did it in denmark where the prisons are nicer than most places :hmm:
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Don't worry he won't stay long.
Expect to be release this afternoon, and be back here this evening. AF & French Union SNPL get the case. Be back soon operational . A+ |
Would anyone care to enlighten us as to
the events which culminated in Monsieur le Capitaine getting himself into the clink? |
In french he is: Monsieur le Commandant de Bord.
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The Danish press isn't very clear why, but apparently the 43 year old French pilot is likely to be jailed for striking an airport worker:
Fransk voldspilot kræves fængslet Den franske pilot, der mandag nikkede en lufthavnsmedarbejder i Københavns Lufthavn en skalle, kræves nu fængslet Pernille Christensen - 8:07 - 26. jul. 2005 Den 43-årige franske pilot, der mandag havde lidt svært ved at styre sit temperament i Københavns Lufthavn, kræves nu fængslet. Piloten fra det det franske luftfartsselskab Air France blev anholdt, efter at han mandag gik amok og nikkede en lufthavnsmedarbejder en skalle, da et fly var ved at blive gjort klar til en tur mod Paris. Ifølge vagthavende hos Københavns Politi i Kastrup kunne den franske pilot ikke styre sig under en diskussion med offeret, der var i færd med at fylde brændstof på flyet. Det banale skænderi endte derfor voldeligt. |
Hey, are you sure you're all pilots, guys?
I AM, and I'm flying for Air France too... Should I be ashamed?.. If the event is true, I can see no reason why such an attitude would be acceptable! Yet, there MUST be a reason (but it will probably not be an excuse) for what happened, and anyone should consider it BEFORE making his/her mind about it... French "arrogance" is an easy way to avoid questionning... I'm trying not to be "arrogant" but I often feel that most of those who keep talking should consider their ability of being NOT french and yet arrogant... Please, let's defend people but keep fighting (bad) ideas and (bad) practices, wherever they come from... Happy landings. |
Apparently the guy involved is not the captain but the copilot.
He smashed his head into the refueler's face... For once that a copilot uses his head ;) |
He came back yesterday afternoon to Paris.
Welcome back home budy.................... He is not the Capt. but the FO. I will not debate about his motivations. I can only tells you that the Mazoute Man (Fuel man was Brit by the way) deserved it... Who talks about arrongance ? At least here we use or head and brains before talking ..:mad: Happy Hours |
There are mechanisms for resolving disputes in a civilized society that do not involve violence especially amongst those tasked with flying passengers on civil airliners.
Headbutting someone over a dispute is plainly unacceptable and lowlife behaviour. Assuming the headbutting actually occured of course. If it did actually occur, the miscreant should be prosocuted to the full extent of the law. |
Understand from Danish newspapers that the French pilot pleaded guilty and received a DKK 5000 fine. End of story.
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More news from Denmark press:
27.07.05 - Bøde til pilot for at nikke en skalle En andenpilot fra et fransk fly fik en bøde på 5.000 kr. efter at have erkendt at have nikket en lufthavnsansat en skalle i Københavns Lufthavn. De to var uenige om, hvordan flyet skulle tankes op. (Øvrige kilder: Politiken, side 3 / Berlingske Tidende, side 3 / BT, side 15 / Urban, side 6) (Jyllands-Posten København / side 2 / 27-07-2005 / Ritzau (Rough translation) First officer of a French plane received a 5.000 kr fine (€670, USD803) after admitting striking (headbutting) an airport employee at Copenhagen airport. The 2 were in disagreement on how the plane should be refuelled. So clearly guilty of "losing his (oily) rag" Perhaps he only had a Total-Fina-Elf credit card and they filled her up with A1 from Statoil? |
It seems the argument was about the fuel guy refusing to follow an internal Air France procedure, which required him to check the fuel instruments in the cockpit before start loading fuel…
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Who the hell cares where he came from.
A pilot had a dispute with a fueller. To prove his point he BUTTHEADED the guy. Is that how it went down? Do you want people like that flying airplanes? Was he attacked? There must be more to the story. You dont just to that and then pay 5000 DK Crowns, and fly home again. |
Don´t mess with copilots :}
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so if said AF co-pilot disagrees with something the captain says, would he headbutt the captain. Seems to me i wouldnt like to have this co-pilot flying a plane i was travelling on, AF should send him to anger management lessons.
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I have just been informed that said pilot has been suspended pending investigation.
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Maybe the fueler was a Brit and he said that the food in France was crap. Oh the language of diplomasy.
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Would you guys give the french a break ?
First the fuel guy is the one who started giving the F/O a push and he got what he deserved in return. If he doesn't agree to AF procedure........well then take a hike and fuel someone else's airfcraft. Second, 2 Qantas Captains got into a fight right on the tarmac in front of the Qantas lounge and third, a Qantas captain punched the living light out of a flight attendant ( I presume a he or it ) leading to the flight cancelation out of Narita. Talk about volatile !! |
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