Damaged Thomas Cook 757 Lyon
 

Saw a TC 757, a super long one, at Lyon t'other day with a pretty nasty looking wing injury. Starboard wing tip just wasn't there! There are lots of light stancions around so i suspect it might be one of them... no other visible damage. Anyone know the details (don't think its posted elsewhere, search is down), I have had some lacklustre marshalling in many places but they are normally OK there.

That would be a 757-300 if the "standard" is a 757-200.

Ah,...the wing or the light stancion? Bit confusing sentence :confused:

Happened on Saturday morning, flight was from LGW. TCX221K.

alexb757
No wonder you're confused, because it's supposed to be stanchion

Psr777
Did the aircraft hit a stanchion? Was it Batman's fault for giving crappy vectors?

Can't be batman's fault.. PIC is ultimately responsible for the safety of his aircraft.

So if a marshaller marshalls me into an object which is out of my sight it is my fault?

Oh! I see.

Having looked at your profile I see that you are well qualified to post your opinion.

Well - I suppose Dewdrop is technically correct BUT......

Many years ago I clipped a de-icing rig with a wingtip despite all clear from a 'qualified wingman' - yes I finished up for tea and a chat with Station Commander but it was the wing man who was
formally cautioned and 'retrained'.

Batman would be to blame otherwise why is he there if not to guide the aircraft on to stand? Having said that we all know the standard of some of these guys so if in doubt stop! If you decide you dont like his instructions and do your own thing and then hit somthing that would be your fault.

M.Mouse - no it is not Batman's fault whatever you think. It's your plane not his. Strange though it may seem. And if a Safedock gets it wrong or you clobber something left in the way - your responsibility.

What was the co-pilot doing while the aircrafts starboard wing was being put into an obstruction?

Its his side and as a rule I always ask the co-pilot if its clear regardless of instructions from the ground.

Whats his excuse

Co Pilot's excuse is a no brainer............you cannot see the wing tips on 757 from the flight deck..........

firewall,

Not that I think the skipper is necessarily at fault here, the FO should also be able to judge if they are going to hit something.

If I was the FO I would shout if i thought we werent clear.

On the 757-3 and newer 757-2, you cannot see the wing tips, from the cockpit, but on older 757´s it is possible.

-Same wingspan, so now it is yours to find out why...

pete;)

Rear view mirrors no longer standard fit?

Was there parked up nearby, the wing struck one of the lamp thingys (not gonna go there...!), as the aircraft was coming to a halt on a remote stand. Very busy morning with lots of ski flights etc.
Airport fire services quickly on hand but thankfully not needed.
Hope no one was hurt.

PZ - not visible cos the office is about 12 feet further forward on the 300?

Sharpshot

Nice to have the opinion of a spotter on the 'professional pilots'
network.................

peteblinking well is not without opening a window even then youd have to unstrap and lean out.

edited to say

I would like to eat humble pie at this point, having now tried various contortions on an early 80's model you can just see the nav light but it is very difficult and you gain no usefull reference from it.
Pete you have my apologies.

blinking well is...just
on older 757s
need to be a contortionist to get head into corner of window and just make out the tip with one eye...done it once or twice

but not while taxiing!

the new ones have the nice rounded plastic fairing over the pillar which makes it impossible

Guys, guys!

Its blinking well irrelevant anyway !

You cant see the wing tips from the -300 flight deck as it is a) newer style b) further forward and the wingspan is the same.