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acmi48 5th Jan 2004 15:46

munich incident
 
has any body head of a fokker landing short at MUC this morning..1 person slightly injured..no mention on any wire services

Landing_24R 5th Jan 2004 16:01

Apparently an Austrian Airlines FK70, no serious injuries reported (according to bild.de)

SGAS 5th Jan 2004 16:02

It seems to be an Austrian Airlines F70, the crew is supposed to have reported engine problems.

angels 5th Jan 2004 16:02

I just posted on it. It's headlined 'Nice work!'. I should have been a little clearer.

hellraiser 5th Jan 2004 16:07

Yes I did:

we are talking about a Fokker 70 from Austrian with 35 people on board. The plane was bound for MUC and reported engine problems during approach. the crew did not manage to reach RWY 2L and made a crash landing on a field 2 kilometers from the threshould. according to reports from MUC rescue staff there was only one person with minor injurues. The whole thing happened 08:30 LT.
I am working for Munich Airport Authority and will update the thread as soon as further valid information is available.

EmDeer 5th Jan 2004 16:09

Heard it 5 minutes ago on the radio - At about 08:20 CET a Fokker 70 of Austrian Airlines landed short of the runway in an open field. 32 pax / 5 crew on board. 1 pax sustained minor injuries, according to the police.
Not much more infos yet.

For more infos check http://www.derstandard.at or http://www.kurier.at (both in german)

angels 5th Jan 2004 16:16

Here's my original post from Reuters. I'll delete my previous thread so we don't have two running on the same incident. As I said, looks like great work by the crew.


Austrian jet makes emergency landing in German field

BERLIN, Jan 5 (Reuters) - A passenger jet has made an emergency landing in a field near Munich airport after the pilot reported problems with one of the engines, police said on Monday. No one was hurt.
The Fokker 70 plane carrying around 30 passengers landed between two and three km short of Munich airport, a police spokesman said. An airport spokesman said the plane belonged to Austrian Airlines <AUAV.VI>.
The spokesman for the airport said there were no injuries. "It is looking very, very good -- no dead, no injured." One person was suffering from shock, he added.

320DRIVER 5th Jan 2004 16:38

Hellraiser,

Was this on approach to MUC (EDDM), as I'm "quite" sure they don't have a 02L there?

You sure you work for the Authority? ;)

HotDog 5th Jan 2004 16:53

Only parallel 08/26, last time I was there.

hellraiser 5th Jan 2004 17:41

a320driver,

yes, I am quite sure - since 11 years.

And the rwy was 26L of course.
According to newest information, the crew declared an emergency during approach due to icing on both engines and then crash-landed on an open field.
due to heavy snowfall the emergecy-respone-forces took a while to locate the aircraft. the passengers were evacuated with 4-WD (as the field is quite muddy) to the next road and then by bus to the airports care team.
considered that we have (and had) heavy snowfall, there are some farmhouses and a lot of powerlines in the area, the crew did a perfect job.

320DRIVER 5th Jan 2004 17:49

Hellraiser, no offence meant and in any case, I offer my apology.

The engine icing problem you mention is interesting as well as frightening... would be good to see if other aircraft reported any ice encounters in the area as the type of icing mentioned must be pretty severe.

hellraiser 5th Jan 2004 18:05

a320 driver,

no apologies needed, as it was my fault...

Sure - I will do some research on "icy"pilot reports.

BTW:
after waiting a while for emergency response, the captain gave his exact coordinates to MUC Tower. the rescue team then managed to locate the plane by GPS.

Landing_24R 5th Jan 2004 18:06

A picture can be found here

flyboy328 5th Jan 2004 18:17

Here some more pictures and a report (german language)http://www.reuters.de/newsPackageArt...7&section=news

europilot 5th Jan 2004 19:14

According to Austrian news reports the pilots were not able to lower the gear...

http://www.orf.at/040105-69380/index.html

superspotter 5th Jan 2004 19:31

According to Austrian news reports the pilots were not able to lower the gear...

That cannot be correct, Europilot as there is a picture of the ripped off undercarriage on the Reuters website.. regards clive.

Clear_Prop 5th Jan 2004 20:32

No offence Superspotter, but I think you may be taking the meaning of the term 'unable to lower the gear' a bit too literally. It is quite possible that all the wheels and goolies were dangling merrily beneath the airframe, just not in a 'locked' state, hence not as any pilot would be happy to call 'lowered'. Whether or not that was actually the case is still open for speculation.

swish266 5th Jan 2004 20:51

Fokker icing problems
 
I wonder if this icing problem might be a persistent one for Fokkers...
I was in Skopije (FYRM) when on 05 March '93 a brand new F100 (about 200 h on the log) of Palair Macedonian crashed immediately after t/o in heavy snowfall. 97 fatalities, 5 survivors.
Any comments?

Hoog 5th Jan 2004 21:50

http://www.kurier.at/chronik/491243.php

hellraiser 5th Jan 2004 22:00

My inquiries with the local ATC at MUC did not reveal any other case of engine or other icing problems in todays operation.

BTW:
After the arrival of an Austrian Delegation, the plane ist just being recovered from the field and to be brought to MUC for further inspection.


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