Air Atlanta Icelandic Hiring '40' B747 Pilots
 

Direct Personnel is recruiting '40' B747 captains and FO's for AAI. How come there is a sudden shortage of B747 pilots? is AAI leasing more B747's for the upcoming Hajj?

I have heard of FAA, Australian and Canadian Pilots getting a JAA validation for AAI. Now they are also considering Asian ICAO licences. Are there and other ICAO licence holders flying for AAI currently?

cheers

Before you get too excited about AAI you should check out how much they are going to pay you :{

I suspect AAI has got some cargo work.

Direct Personnel is offering a Basic salary is USD$7500 per 75 block hour per month, overtime is paid at $100 per hour. Accommodation and transport are provided. No mention of Per Diem payment. Is there any?

are they not getting five of the eight LHCargo 747's in 2004 ?

There are no per diem payments according to the blokes down the pub.The requirement is mainly for the Hadj which starts on 24th Dec this year(just in case you are a family man),but they do have an ever increasing cargo operation based in KL Malaysia which until the next bomb,is long term.The blokes also say that another agency to use is Air Crew Executive,ACE,and that there are small differences between ACE and Direct.(which I couldn't understand when they were explained to me...but that might have been due to the beer!)Atlanta are also trying to get one 747 onto the British register so that it can fly to Japan(amazingly ,the Icelandics and Japanese do not have some sort of trade/cargo agreement to allow this, even though they share common values like getting legless and killing whales).The chances of getting taken on more permenantly after the three month Hadj depends on..according to my mates..how well you walk the walk on the plane as opposed to how well you talk the talk in your made up log book...so if you turn up and say you are a multi thousand hour captain..just make sure you get into the correct seat when you come to do the sim!The blokes were pretty rude about the whole thing,but as they were ex AFX perhaps scepticism has crept in.It all got a bit hazy after that and the conversation moved on to the size of Liv Tyler's feet and if that had any significance to any other part of her anatomy!

Abra,
nice one you hit the nail on the head with the log book comment. These type of companies do tend to attract the itinerant pilot, with a two week qualification. shame they get validated.

the other thread on air atlanta may interest you particularly the bit about the cosy relationship between the atlanta and the icelandic caa vis avis giving out validations.

Direct Personnel say that all positions have been filled with Air Atlanta. 40 Captains and f/o within a week? which i find rather appalling. Did anybody here get a contract offer?

Air Atlanta's press gangs are mighty efficient by all accounts. No sane individual would volunteer.

all positions have been filled with Air Atlanta
:ooh: ...did I miss something?:}
You've gotta be quick around here!:} (LOL)

I was there for about two weeks last month. I was unhappy and they paid me what was owed and a ticket home. The pilots in my class were genuine, all were old timers. ACE was the only one hiring all AAI pilots at the time. I was later contacted by Direct to see if I was interested in going to AAI.

AAI have just started operating a B742 for Cargolux. Might even be more than one.

It makes me wonder why they didn´t fill the positions faster:mad:
AAI has really out done themselves now. They just sold training to 6 new guys last week for 28000 usd and might, just might, offer them first officer positions following thier training, on the superb ACE contract:ok: As if that is not enough AAI is going to bond those poor barstards, sort of, by holding back 15 usd per day for two years. 175 - 15 makes 160 usd per day x 30 = 4800 per month with zero time off. If the Ice taxman does his job and follows the Icelandic tax law. there is not going to be much left to make the wife back home happy is there.

Dont Quote Me
 

AAI have apparently acquired the EX BA 200 currently parked at Manston. Reg GBXIO I think. Apparantly rumour has it is to be supplied to Lufthansa for some reason (According to the Ops guy)

According to the darts team on Tuesday evening (we lost),AAI are still short of about a dozen Classic crews.Not only do they have the Hadj coming up,but also a new three plane wet lease with Lufthansa Cargo starting soon.The size of JayLo's backside and the cost of its insurance filled our thoughts towards the end of the evening..whether it would be better fully comp or third party fire and theft.No wonder we lost....I mean theft...?

Air Atlanta are also going to wet lease 2 B747-200Fs from 11-19 Nov to BA.

AAI sucks DonkeyDick's
 

AAI pay is same now as it was 6 years ago.

unless you are an Icelandic pilot and in the Union.

There are 2 classes of pilots at AAI, Air Atlanta Icelandic,, there are the Icelandic Union pilots who work 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off with salary,, "and" perdiem while working the 3 weeks on.


Then there are the worker bees/pilots who have to work at the pay rates that have remained unchanged for the last 7 years to support the working conditions of the union piilots.
And no perdiem, they keep that for them selves. I am sure that the airlines that they fly for pay it to the company, but the pilots never see a pence of that.

in 1996 AAI paid $ 100 an hour and still do in 2003 for a new hire. They didn't pay perdiem then and don't now.

Go fly the Hadj and make a few, then go home.

That's life at AAI.

:mad: ers.

AAI have apparently acquired the EX BA 200 currently parked at Manston. Reg GBXIO I think. Apparantly rumour has it is to be supplied to Lufthansa for some reason (According to the Ops guy)

The better rumour is its off to EAAC at bournmouth along with another 2 ex virgin aircraft.The present Eaac fleet is in a poor state and in need of big money majors from next year.Some serious money also needs to be spent on the interiors as they havn't been touched since BA had them...............still, not half as bad as the Air Atlanta fleet !

B767Longhaul...No not $100 per hour..Atlanta pay $250 per day.They also pay $100 per hour for any hours flown more than 75 in a calander month.But paperwork from ACE,their main pilot contract agency has indicated that the whole pilot/FE package is going to be improved as of November 2003.The airline's owner,a young kid who lives in Luxembourg,has agreed that long term fixed contracts including paid leave,loss of licence insurance,improved pay and other benefits will be offered to 'selected' crew. Atlanta is growing at a prodigious rate and they want a corps of regular people to stay with them rather than the gypsy itinerant lot they have had in the past.The 747 (and 767)seems to be going from strength to strength,with long term scheduled freight operations with Malaysian,Cargolux and soon Lufthansa.AAI are offering in house 747 conversions to their 767 pilots to cover their 747 pilot shortfall.
There again B767,as someone who says in his profile that he doesn't reckon on flying for scumbag outfits..you are probably safer staying in Kano and flying for...er... Kabo?

abra I do hope you are not suggesting "gypsy itinerants" are any worse pilots than any others!!!:{

The reason why Pilots come and go from AAI is because most join because they are desperate and unemployed or ( may be unemployable elsewhere?? ) and when something better comes along they leave, hence your description of " gypsy itinerant"

As you say if conditions improve then a more stable workforce should be the end result.