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B767Longhaul 3rd Nov 2003 00:41

Ace contract was $250/day, no work, no pay.

Direct Personnel Contract was $ 7,500 per month for a 75 hour guarantee, anything over 75 hours was paid at guess what, $100/block hour.

That's what the DP contract was 6 years ago, and was 1 year ago as well. I do not know what it is today.

Neither contract paid per diem.

Loftie 4th Nov 2003 03:43

Marry an Icelandic, stay outside of the EU, then no problem. They don't really care about the non-Icelandics.

Someone mention the Cod war?

JJflyer 4th Nov 2003 15:56

Iceland
 
Never had any problems with Icelandics. On the contrary, initially a bit reserved, but the nicest of people when you get to know them. In many ways similar to Finns or even Norvegians.
I call it "Village mentality" as countries with small population resemble small villages in their social structure, thus outsiders are often distrusted.

Sure being Icelandic gives one an advantage, but can you with straight face say that UK companies do not give preference to natives speaking native language? I think this applies to most companies around the world.

tata

jumpseat 7th Nov 2003 22:38

Spots/Norman.

This is actually BDXO ( "Flying Carpet") and is indeed bound for EAAC. Currently in a KLM hangar in AMS. Two ex VS/CX 47's due online with EAAC within the next month.

EAAC looking for 747 experienced crews if anyones interested. Money not good and they know it, but great fun and a professional bunch.

Kato747 8th Nov 2003 13:45

Jumpseat, me thinks you're a bit 'jaded' here. Last year's EAAC performance with Air Asia left an incredible amount to be desired! Their overt claim, at the Pan Pacific Glenmarie, that they were going to put AAI outta business was heralded to the gutter snipes. I personally flew three "rescue missions", 2 x to Kuching and 1 x to Kota Kinabalu due to EAAC tech faults (within the first week of EAAC deployment). Many grifters fault AAI for unprofessional practices but few can match their sortie production.

AAI may not be perfect, but few of us are.....unless, of course, you profess Gold Coast heritage and Ansett on your resume.... (dubious distinction, anyway).

Lotsa good folks at AAI, many previously with AFX... doubt if you could match the expertise.

Paladini 8th Nov 2003 14:30

JJflyer......T'would pay you to get a copy of the "Xenophobe's Guide to Icelanders" your comments on "small communities" are right on the mark.....want to know why??? check out the book... BTW it's on sale "prominently" at the book shop in KEF.

The Snow-negroids have a great sense of humour as long as it's NOT directed at them!

jumpseat 8th Nov 2003 15:10

Kato, A bit insecure I think?
No mention of AAI in my post , no comparisons, just an update.
Chill.

I am sure AAI and EAAC can co-exist. Lets hope so. No one wants to put anyone out of business and I have certainly never heard anyone at EAAC utter the words you claim. The more jobs out there the better. I wish everyone at AAI well.

EAAC have taken up missed AAI flights and V.V. It's the business.

Kato747 9th Nov 2003 08:49

Jumpseat, OK OK point taken. Comments overheard in the "Glen" were most likely fuelled by too much "Tiger".

I know quite a few EAAC drivers, am friends with a few, and should have taken the comments as innocuous banter. Silly me!

Are you guys still entangled with Nigeria? Take care, there, my freind!

jumpseat 9th Nov 2003 22:48

No Probs K7, Perhaps see you in the East in a month or so... Your shout, mines a Tiger.

alexb757 4th Dec 2003 02:59

Back to the original thread.......

Anyone know anything about classes for the 767/757 fleet?

I was "hired" last month but not sent travel details, so was unable to start. Mind you, the info sent was for a 747 Capt's position with a 767 attachment! I'm qual'd on 757/767, nothing on 747. Have not heard back since.

Insiders say everything centers on the 747 right now and prob nothing for 767/757 until Feb/Mar 2004.

Appreciate some info as I was ready to go with 4 days notice!! And now.....silence.

Cheers.

abra 5th Dec 2003 04:02

alexb757,I think they want JAR 75/767 people.

alexb757 5th Dec 2003 04:25

Correction

Just to set the record straight re my previous post (re: 767/757 courses), and in all fairness to AAI, they did apologise for the mix up in communications.

Also, I have been informed that I am still "on file" for any future classes. They have been very busy recruiting for the 747 and have concentrated mainly on this with the up-coming Hadj.
The future appears to be bright for both 747 and 767 contracts for the forseeable future and their ability to remain flexible holds them in good stead.

abra 5th Dec 2003 16:43

Alexb757..the rumours from the chaps at the pub are that the AeroMar contract in the Dominican Republic has ended(2Xplanes) and that the days of the Southern Winds contract are limited(another 2).Atlanta need Classic 747 crew and JAR 75/767 crews.Your best hope is that you get a call for the Hadj which starts 24th Dec.Wish you luck.

mutt 6th Dec 2003 19:51

AAI will operate 5 B747's and 3 767's for Saudia based in Jeddah. Rumour has it that they couldnt get enough B747 crews for a 6th aircraft.


Mutt.

PIA747 6th Dec 2003 23:18

Yes, i believe they do have a B747 piloytshortage. I was contacted by Direct personnel this week. They too have changed from a monthly salary of 7500 to 250/day. seems like a bad deal to me, particularly for the long Hajj hours.

mutt 7th Dec 2003 01:11

250x30 days = 7500, so why change?? does it indicate that they are only going to pay you for "worked" days?


Mutt.

PIA747 7th Dec 2003 01:20

No the Job specification does not mention anything about pay for days off. Just says rostered time off according to airline FOM and $250/day.
However, there is no clause for flying over the 70 hour limit.

Also says Training/Instructors recieve additional payments for services rendered. Any idea what this is like?

Early Right 7th Dec 2003 01:32

Hey mutt, you´re pretty good at math!!! Yes this change means you only get paid for the days at work i.e. days you´re away from home. No paid time off. Not good:mad:


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