BA to recruit DEPs on to the 777
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BA to recruit DEPs on to the 777
Underwent Stage 1 DEP testing recently. Whilst there we were given a very brief insight into possible fleet allocation should we succeed.
It seems that LHR A320, B747-400 & B777 will all be available. Fleet selection will be based upon previous experience & individual choice.
It seems that with with a less severe reduction on B747-400 fleet numbers, the route structure on that fleet has not been as badly affected as was previously anticipated. Because of this, bids to B747-400 have increased from within BA leaving slots for DEPs on 777.
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It seems that LHR A320, B747-400 & B777 will all be available. Fleet selection will be based upon previous experience & individual choice.
It seems that with with a less severe reduction on B747-400 fleet numbers, the route structure on that fleet has not been as badly affected as was previously anticipated. Because of this, bids to B747-400 have increased from within BA leaving slots for DEPs on 777.
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It appears that a lot of ex -400 guys who were directed off to the 777 a year or so ago are being given the opportunity to return. This has obviously led to fewer vacancies on the -400 and more on the 777. If the Caribbean is your bag, then 777 is the place to be! Also, it's a more sociable fleet than the -400.
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Pickled wrote.....
<<The 777 is the fleet to be on. Has anyone else heard this rumour? >>
If you are senior....most certainly. If you are at the bottom of the pile you can look forward to loads of East coast back-to-backs that are fairly worthless in term of allowances. Your head will remain jet-lagged permanently somewhere about 30west.
A junior BA 777 co-pilot takes home about UKL 2400 pm. A couple of years ago I was that co-pilot so please spare me the denials.
<<The 777 is the fleet to be on. Has anyone else heard this rumour? >>
If you are senior....most certainly. If you are at the bottom of the pile you can look forward to loads of East coast back-to-backs that are fairly worthless in term of allowances. Your head will remain jet-lagged permanently somewhere about 30west.
A junior BA 777 co-pilot takes home about UKL 2400 pm. A couple of years ago I was that co-pilot so please spare me the denials.
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You didn't believe what the letter said did you!?!
You may go to 747-400, but you could also be sent any where! The 777 fleet has a large pilot requirement along with the A319/320 fleet too.
It does not matter where you go as long as you get an early date of joing and so a number on the master list.
Welcome to the mad house.........if you can't take a joke don't join......remember that!
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You may go to 747-400, but you could also be sent any where! The 777 fleet has a large pilot requirement along with the A319/320 fleet too.
It does not matter where you go as long as you get an early date of joing and so a number on the master list.
Welcome to the mad house.........if you can't take a joke don't join......remember that!
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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An...er...interesting posting Zombie but just another senseless dig at BA and the new joinees. I am aware of the sidesteps that BA retains the right to administer on the new recruits and have been taking a joke for the last 2 years in my present company! However,I was simply making an enquiry as to if anyone knew how likely a shift would be.
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I would think a shift was most unlikely as many of this years successful 744 bidders within the company bid for 777 as first choice. As the Cassandra process is refined some people are starting to find that they no longer have a 744 course and are bound for 777s instead, usually much to their delight! Its likely that the 744 places left vacant by these moves will be the only long haul options for the DEPs
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"I was simply making an enquiry as to if anyone knew how likely a shift would be"
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IMHO. quite likely some may swop on to 777 but even the pilot managers at BA don't know exactly as the fleet mix is constantly evolving.
Driven by other departments, commercial etc.
eg. initial 2000/2001 plans showed no command courses on the 757/767 LHR fleet.
Then it was 35 approx. and then it was 54 approx.
You see the plan is only that a plan and does change quite often.
Even during your conversion course the plan may change and you go to another type. It has happened........hope this helps you more!
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"I was simply making an enquiry as to if anyone knew how likely a shift would be"
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IMHO. quite likely some may swop on to 777 but even the pilot managers at BA don't know exactly as the fleet mix is constantly evolving.
Driven by other departments, commercial etc.
eg. initial 2000/2001 plans showed no command courses on the 757/767 LHR fleet.
Then it was 35 approx. and then it was 54 approx.
You see the plan is only that a plan and does change quite often.
Even during your conversion course the plan may change and you go to another type. It has happened........hope this helps you more!
[This message has been edited by The Zombie (edited 05 June 2001).]
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I understand that of all the FOs who were force moved from the 744 to the 777 only 2 have expressed an interest in moving back to the 744.
The 777 now has the most lucrative route in the Company and the majority of the beach routes (including a 9 day Tobago)and is set to pick up more as LGW becomes totally 777. The atmosphere on the fleet is very good, not least because the CSD's office and First Class galley are next to the flight deck. The worst trip line normally includes at least one half decent trip.
Anything can happen in the future, but it would seem likely that the 744 will take over many of the Classic routes to the East Coast as high capacity is needed. The East Coast will probably be split between the two longhaul fleets (with some 767 trips).
The 744 has much going for it, but the fact is that many in the Company now favour the 777.
The first five years offer no guarantees on joining BA, but I understand that if you join on longhaul it is very unlikely that the Company would force a move to shorthaul and vice versa. The guys moved off the 744 were all offered the 777, some chose to go shorthaul and were given their choice.
The 777 now has the most lucrative route in the Company and the majority of the beach routes (including a 9 day Tobago)and is set to pick up more as LGW becomes totally 777. The atmosphere on the fleet is very good, not least because the CSD's office and First Class galley are next to the flight deck. The worst trip line normally includes at least one half decent trip.
Anything can happen in the future, but it would seem likely that the 744 will take over many of the Classic routes to the East Coast as high capacity is needed. The East Coast will probably be split between the two longhaul fleets (with some 767 trips).
The 744 has much going for it, but the fact is that many in the Company now favour the 777.
The first five years offer no guarantees on joining BA, but I understand that if you join on longhaul it is very unlikely that the Company would force a move to shorthaul and vice versa. The guys moved off the 744 were all offered the 777, some chose to go shorthaul and were given their choice.
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Thanks Zombie for the info; sorry if I was a bit abrupt before, I've been in a foul mood all day - I hate clearing the garage!
Bowser, I did stage 1 in late '98 and stage 2 about 6 weeks after; been in hold pool for ages including a refresher interview. Turned down BA s/h offers - knew I was taking a risk but I am working L/H at the moment and that is suiting my lifestyle and commuting. BA offered me 744 about 3 months ago, quite out of the blue - dead chuffed.
Bowser, I did stage 1 in late '98 and stage 2 about 6 weeks after; been in hold pool for ages including a refresher interview. Turned down BA s/h offers - knew I was taking a risk but I am working L/H at the moment and that is suiting my lifestyle and commuting. BA offered me 744 about 3 months ago, quite out of the blue - dead chuffed.
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From the horses mouth:
"we anticipate B777 slots coming up later on (and have just amended our website to reflect this!) but they are as yet unconfirmed. The earliest possible date that we will have slots as far as I am aware is November 2001 "
Things are picking up.
"we anticipate B777 slots coming up later on (and have just amended our website to reflect this!) but they are as yet unconfirmed. The earliest possible date that we will have slots as far as I am aware is November 2001 "
Things are picking up.
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moreantsinmypants...Welcome to the world of '21st Century Air Travel'.
I'm sure after the initial period of changing companies and settling in you will enjoy working for the National Flag Carrier.
Give it six months to feel at home and take no cr*p from the very few jumped up CSDs you will meet.
Well done!
Hope the garage is now spotless.
I'm sure after the initial period of changing companies and settling in you will enjoy working for the National Flag Carrier.
Give it six months to feel at home and take no cr*p from the very few jumped up CSDs you will meet.
Well done!
Hope the garage is now spotless.