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Old 26th Jun 2003, 19:50
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BA 777 Emergency Return to LGW

A BA 777 has carried out an emergency return to LGW after a panel from the fuselage became dislodged during climbout and smashed a cabin window.

Flight BA2157 was bound for Antigua.
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Old 26th Jun 2003, 20:25
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eek!

And Rod E is replacing the 744s with 777s...

Not on YYZ please!

Was there a depressurisation?
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Doesn't sound good.Can't find anything on BBC/Sky about it,although Ceefax is showing that the flight definitely returned to LGW,landing 11:48.
Sounds like the crew did an excellent job,although that will probably go unnoticed amid the inevitable sensationalist reporting.Were any pax hurt?
Shades of the THY DC-10 about this one.....wonder how the cargo door came off?

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Shades of the THY DC-10 about this one


How about the THY A300 for similarity to this event.

The panel sliced through the pressurized cabin.
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Don't remember an incident involving a THY A300.What exactly happened?
Still nothing over the airwaves about the BA 777.

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Guess that's finger trouble over the THY A300

The ones I recall were the UAL811 747 incident (Hawaii), and the Evergreen DC-9 out of FWH - March 1989.
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A friend of mine from Heathrow ATC was on board with his missus. Said the crew did an excellent job.

Captain made loads of announcements informing everybody what had happened, and what they were doing about it etc.
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On the spot reporting...

BA777. 284 POB. Returned reporting fulselage damage and overweight landing.

LGW full emergency declared with usual response from emergency services.

Landed safely at 1148A, AFS inspected landing gear - taxied to stand under own power.

Had a look later... panel below and aft of port wing missing. Paint scuff marks across the rear of the fuselage and tail. No obvious window damage. No decompression reported.

No injuries to any pax or crew.

Stood down at 1203A.
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No decompression reported.

No injuries to any pax or crew.
Good news... well done to all.
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panel below and aft of port wing missing. Paint scuff marks across the rear of the fuselage and tail.
ADP turbine drive access maybe???
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777 door/panel loose

Doesn't sound like any cargo door, not the aft, forward, side, nor bulk.

For other cargo door info see www.corazon.com

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THY DC-10 in 1973 - a charter carrying rugby supporters from Paris (to London?).

Door locks failed to engage on rear cargo door. This is why the DC-10 lower cargo doors have windows over the locks so their engagement can be verified. Other doors, like Main Deck cargo doors on 757 SF, have similar viewing windows. Main reason THY DC-10 crashed was due to cabin floor collapsing. Subsequent mods to the DC-10 and other types introduced vent panels in the floors.
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Misunderstanding I guess

Seems like most folks reading this prelim info are just assuming it has to do with a cargo door.

I was of another mind that it was only an outer covering like a panel thus my reference to the A300 was to that extent.

the A300 lost an outer panel from an engine and it blew back along the fuselage penetrating the cabin and resulting in extensive interior damage.

I believe my reference is correct (as I have the photos) but of course am awaiting the details of what happened to the B777.
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What reg was the 772??

TIA

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Decompression, well, OK, "pressurisation problems", were reported. In fact that was the initial reason for the return. A cracked cabin window was known to be the cause.

Aircraft tootled off to the south coast to dump fuel, but after a short while dumping, decided it was necessary for a more rapid return to Gatwick than originally planned due to some suspicion of further damage to the fuselage.

So landing was overweight, Full Emergency was initialised.

As pilotwolf says, it was a panel from below and aft of the port wing trailing edge, just towards the rear of the wing root "bulge". It wasn't, however a cargo door, but more an engineering access panel, now proudly displaying some bits not normally visible to the outside world!!

Judging by the scuffs all the way up the fuselage edge it has lifted upwards and kicked off the side of the window line. Quite possibly also a puncture to the fin skin, but hard to tell between a black scuff or similar and a puncture from ground level.

Suspected point of panel leaving the aircraft's company was as it climbed through 6000ft which would have put it somewhere north of Gatwick heading west. Last I heard, no panel reported found.
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I'll have a look in my garden!!
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You wouldn't miss it, it's about 5ft square!!

Have you seen your cat since lunchtime?
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Old 27th Jun 2003, 03:15
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No luck yet!! Would have made a nice garden feature.

I'll have a look on the way to the pub!!
Would beat an estate agent sign or numerous bollards as a token of a good night. You can picture the usual morning after scene 3 bollards, 4 estate agents boards and if you add a 777 panel, a good nights work!!!
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A homeowner in Windsor, Canada investigating a noise out back came across a coffin containing a dear departed in his backyard after the first DC-10 cargo door shedding.

I have always wondered how the conversation went when he reported the lost cargo to the authorities as I can imagine that the copper taking the call would first take him as either a nutter or drunk.

Not much of an addition to the garden unless it's Hallow'en.
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Old 27th Jun 2003, 03:33
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Jeez, that's a bad one... Good job it came off at 6,000 and not at 27,000 or the cabin floor would have had a good testing. Shades of DC-10, Turkish and Canadian...
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