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I flew in a BMIBaby Fokker 100 recently?
As for the issue raised in this thread.....
Its all too easy these days to point the finger without knowing the full facts.
Have a good day !
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I flew in a BMIBaby Fokker 100 recently?
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So did I.. (in standard BMI livery) I understand they use 146's too on occasion.
Right now youv'e confused me, what is BMI's standard livery nowadays
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I flew in a BMIBaby Fokker 100 recently?
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So did I.. (in standard BMI livery) I understand they use 146's too on occasion.
Right now youv'e confused me, what is BMI's standard livery nowadays
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The 321 wx radar does not seem to work as well as 320 radar. I have flown into weather which was not painting on the radar. Apparently, the radome material and the design of the radome have been changed to allow the predictive windshear to operate at its optimum. The radomes have subsequently been fitted to all 321's whether or not they have PWS fitted. The result of this is that the non PWS weather radar does not work as well as the PWS fit radar.
Interesting comment about the radomes, I have always felt that the A320/A321 radar was not as good as it was on the 737 and maybe thats the reason. Can't recall if the A321 seems worse than the 320 but I will have a think about it next time I use it. I often seem to look out of the window and think "well that should be painting" and the radar shows nothing.
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While we're on a topic about Wx Radar performance, what difference does the radome being painted black make?
Noticeable the older aircraft had black radomes, and newer aircraft / and or "maketing driven" airlines paint them all sorts of other colours...
NoD
Noticeable the older aircraft had black radomes, and newer aircraft / and or "maketing driven" airlines paint them all sorts of other colours...
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One thing I personally dislike about the A320 radar is that the brightness control is independent of the ND brightness control - I think that they should be the same thing.
The design means that you can have the radar switched on, but not visible because the brightness is well down. Not clever design IMHO.
The design means that you can have the radar switched on, but not visible because the brightness is well down. Not clever design IMHO.
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I beliebe that the radar on the 320 and 321 are different in as much as the 320 sweeps but the 321 does not and is more of a phased array. I saw the aeroplane this morning at MAN with it's new green radome. Didn't see any other damage but our lot had a similar occurence a while ago that did many many thousands of dollars of damage with cracked windscreens and tail leading edges. Beware big blobs on your screen !
I read somewhere that bmi are re-naming the A321 to 'Daniella' in honour of said actress....
.... due to the aircraft's nasty encounter with snow, sustaining serious nose damage while flying high!
.... due to the aircraft's nasty encounter with snow, sustaining serious nose damage while flying high!
Only half a speed-brake
It has been mentioned that A320's radar MAY be inferior to those on 737s.
On the contratry, the wise man beside me (A310, ATR, 737 in that order) claims that 737 has the least useful radar he has flown. I myself have little relevant experience on 737 as of yet, but from what I have seen last week over Balkan and associated WXR returns, I'd agree it's good for keeping the ship in one piece perhaps, but not for avoidance required to keep the drinks pouring.
Anyone here with experience on both types dare to compare? Or perhaps just a link to a proper post?
On the contratry, the wise man beside me (A310, ATR, 737 in that order) claims that 737 has the least useful radar he has flown. I myself have little relevant experience on 737 as of yet, but from what I have seen last week over Balkan and associated WXR returns, I'd agree it's good for keeping the ship in one piece perhaps, but not for avoidance required to keep the drinks pouring.
Anyone here with experience on both types dare to compare? Or perhaps just a link to a proper post?
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The wx radar on the A300-600 is not particularly good. If gain is left in 'cal' - as Airbus recommend - it picks up nothing except at very, very short range when it's too late to do anything. I leave it on 50% gain.
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Stop all the waffle, its blatently obvious it was pilot error either in avoidance or use of the radar. lets call a spade a spade. any night summer charter pilot who thinks differently will surely be next.
1. radar on
2 monitor
3 correlate with radio trafic and visual indications where you can.
4 scan down (100 feet per degree per mile.)
5 do what you get paid for. avoid conservatively.
its not your ego thats paramount its pax safety and comfort.
put down paper/hosty/ high horse and get on with it.
only one thing can save them and that is a proven faulty radar.
and i dont want to hear any nonsense about second guessing some commander on the day. if you do somethin stupid or careles when exercising this holier than god command you will be answerable.
rant over.
1. radar on
2 monitor
3 correlate with radio trafic and visual indications where you can.
4 scan down (100 feet per degree per mile.)
5 do what you get paid for. avoid conservatively.
its not your ego thats paramount its pax safety and comfort.
put down paper/hosty/ high horse and get on with it.
only one thing can save them and that is a proven faulty radar.
and i dont want to hear any nonsense about second guessing some commander on the day. if you do somethin stupid or careles when exercising this holier than god command you will be answerable.
rant over.
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And I know we can expect a more intelligent response fron the AAIB.
Lets see how BALPA do on this one ! No prizes for guessing correctly.
(I'm assuming a non-management Captain)
"All hail to the management" ? -- sorry, could'nt resist !
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dicksynormous,
Think you got it wrong mate, should be egosynormous and presumably your halo glows as well.
The company and the AAIB will ask the appropriate questions and all will be revealed in time.
1. It may have been u/s.
2. If it was on then you have to monitor it 'cos its on the ND.
3. They may have been avoiding more obvious weather.
4. See 3
5. They did what they are paid for and got it down safely.
They may only need saving from YOU.
No I don't fly for bmi!
Think you got it wrong mate, should be egosynormous and presumably your halo glows as well.
The company and the AAIB will ask the appropriate questions and all will be revealed in time.
1. It may have been u/s.
2. If it was on then you have to monitor it 'cos its on the ND.
3. They may have been avoiding more obvious weather.
4. See 3
5. They did what they are paid for and got it down safely.
They may only need saving from YOU.
No I don't fly for bmi!