COMPULSARY REDUNDANCIES AT BRITISH AIRWAYS!!
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Screwdriver,. .Yes, even the most junior F/E at BA has 20 odd years with the company. most of the rest around the 30 mark. 4 weeks salary per year, uncapped....I bet most of them had their pension contributions made up too. I'm not against this in principle, these guys have given their whole working lives to one company, but the MAN guys are getting very little in comparison and that stinks. The rest of us? well we're going to be out in the wilderness one day soon with a package worth a fraction of that. C'est la vie! <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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Basil,
You have hit the nail on the head there, thank you for the support.
The good news, if you can call it that, is that the cut off date has moved back to 22nd February.
The offers have not been improved but at least the blokes involved will, by then, have more info to make a decision.
Thanks for all your comments.
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You have hit the nail on the head there, thank you for the support.
The good news, if you can call it that, is that the cut off date has moved back to 22nd February.
The offers have not been improved but at least the blokes involved will, by then, have more info to make a decision.
Thanks for all your comments.
[ 01 February 2002: Message edited by: HOVIS ]</p>
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Hovis, unfortunately, this is not the first time people have been made redundant by BA. In Sept 1982, all of the Engineering Apprentices were given Dear John letters as their services were not needed.. .This also happened to the Apprentices finishing in March 83 and Sept 83.. .This was done for purely financial reasons, as they did not offer a job contract and so didnt have to pay redundancy monies. . .I know because I was one of them, fully trained but with 'no experiance' as the job market saw it. A catch 22 situation.. .Good luck to anyone out there who will soon be without a job, keep in touch with the company though as they do seem to be fairly good at taking people back when times get better.. .(Often as a consultant, doing your old jod for twice the dosh!)
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British Airways plots new flight plan. .Mid-February Investor Day update promises changes . . . .By Emily Church, CBS.MarketWatch.com. .Last Update: 10:40 AM ET Jan. 31, 2002
[quote] Future Size and Shape is also the make-or-break moment for Rod Eddington, the straight-talking Australian who replaced the urbane and ultimately isolated Bob Ayling two years ago.
Eddington has restored shattered staff morale despite job cuts and brought bold thinking to bear in abandoning routes like politically important Belfast, Northern Ireland where it lost millions every year.
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See, someone thinks he's doing a good job. She obviously didn't speak to any of the Engineers when she wrote about the alledged "restored shattered staff morale".
[quote] Future Size and Shape is also the make-or-break moment for Rod Eddington, the straight-talking Australian who replaced the urbane and ultimately isolated Bob Ayling two years ago.
Eddington has restored shattered staff morale despite job cuts and brought bold thinking to bear in abandoning routes like politically important Belfast, Northern Ireland where it lost millions every year.
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See, someone thinks he's doing a good job. She obviously didn't speak to any of the Engineers when she wrote about the alledged "restored shattered staff morale".
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Feetwet,. .If I remember rightly all the apprentii at the time were redeployed throughout the airline, some became stewards others worked up in revenue accounts, some became cleaners and baggage handlers! . .This was only a temporary thing and most (but by no means all), came back into engineering within 2 or 3 years.
Whether or not you can call that compulsory or not can be debated all night but at least they had the chance to be redeployed THROUGHOUT the company! Which is not the case at MAN.
I get your drift though - thanks.
Whether or not you can call that compulsory or not can be debated all night but at least they had the chance to be redeployed THROUGHOUT the company! Which is not the case at MAN.
I get your drift though - thanks.
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Banzai Chap, BAR are'nt being merged into BRAL. BA bought BRAL and merged them with Brymon to form BA CitiExpress. Post 11 Sep BA decided to lump BAR into CitiExpress and we went from profit to loss in a heartbeat!
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At the risk of some gross thread creep here, I should like to point out that within BAR, BHX made a greater profit than the loss made at MAN, which in simple terms means the BAR group made a profit. BACE doesn't exist as a single entity yet, and BAR was only handed over to the 'BACE' management after Sept 11th, so if you're making a loss now don't blame us, it's your own fault!
Also, if your firm is so radically efficient would you care to explain why we have to park an A319 at EDI all day just to provide work for one of your Emb145s that would otherwise be redundant? Something to do with the management wanting to shift the cost of an unnecessary aircraft from BACE to BAR perhaps?
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Also, if your firm is so radically efficient would you care to explain why we have to park an A319 at EDI all day just to provide work for one of your Emb145s that would otherwise be redundant? Something to do with the management wanting to shift the cost of an unnecessary aircraft from BACE to BAR perhaps?
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OK but BACE not our idea. Lets look at who the managers in BACE are and you see the main players are BA/BAR. Facts are we(BRAL and Brymon)were profitable by ourselves until BAR was 'given'to us! No amount of BA spin and BS can change that but a BA management structure has.