Whats happening at Cathay?
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Huzzah! Did you see that everyone - actual news. Not knowing the make-up of the Cx board or being much of a business man, how serious a development is this?
Perhaps he can return to spin bowling for England!!!
Standby, incoming conjecture!
Perhaps he can return to spin bowling for England!!!
Standby, incoming conjecture!
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Thought Sutch was heading up a new airline in Europe, buying up a few small airlines... maybe those are his personal reasons ?
Regarding the Chinese element. There are several senior Chinese managers now. But I think more importantly, need to remember that CX now has huge (can't recall %) ownership share from mainland China.
I heard they were massively pissed off that this dispute had escalated, and that it was indeed they who ordered CX management to take a hard line and put a swift end to this non-communist style uprising.
I think that these political elements are most important part of this dispute, and Swires are under massive pressure to manage the outfit in a manner suitable to Beijing.
Me thinks that if this dispute carries on a bit more, that Swires might be forced out of CX, and then who nows what Beijing will do.
Certainly, an end to CX as we know it, is a definite possibility...
Whilst acting in the correct, diligent manner, I wonder whether CX pilots realise the true ramifications of this dispute...
CX might become just like Air China...
However, must say best of luck to CX crew. Hang in there, and act together.
Z.
Regarding the Chinese element. There are several senior Chinese managers now. But I think more importantly, need to remember that CX now has huge (can't recall %) ownership share from mainland China.
I heard they were massively pissed off that this dispute had escalated, and that it was indeed they who ordered CX management to take a hard line and put a swift end to this non-communist style uprising.
I think that these political elements are most important part of this dispute, and Swires are under massive pressure to manage the outfit in a manner suitable to Beijing.
Me thinks that if this dispute carries on a bit more, that Swires might be forced out of CX, and then who nows what Beijing will do.
Certainly, an end to CX as we know it, is a definite possibility...
Whilst acting in the correct, diligent manner, I wonder whether CX pilots realise the true ramifications of this dispute...
CX might become just like Air China...
However, must say best of luck to CX crew. Hang in there, and act together.
Z.
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Zones,
The AOA is well aware of the possible and perhaps disastarous effect of this dispute. From about mid-2000 a blue print was published by the AOA aimed at bringing pressure upon CX. The blue print is not secret and is a disciplined, phased and escalating sequence of industrial action. Taken to its conclusion the plan is for mutually assured destruction!
The AOA is well aware of the possible and perhaps disastarous effect of this dispute. From about mid-2000 a blue print was published by the AOA aimed at bringing pressure upon CX. The blue print is not secret and is a disciplined, phased and escalating sequence of industrial action. Taken to its conclusion the plan is for mutually assured destruction!
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For the benefit of "the gipsy", the management team:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/ab...,47774,00.html
only 3 out of 12 would appear to be chinese, and two of those have been with the company for 28 and 19 years!!
http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/ab...,47774,00.html
only 3 out of 12 would appear to be chinese, and two of those have been with the company for 28 and 19 years!!
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Eastern Air Lines all over again? Since you spelled it right, you must have worked there.. one of the golden 200, nah, an-off-the-street, perhaps? The only similarity in these disputes are of course, piss-poor management.
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The point at issue is that Cathay's employment laws are all based on the fact that it is a Chinese Airline. FACT. As such what happened sacking 52 would never have happened in a 1st World country. You are all now expats with all that that entails namely we can all be terminated with 3 months notice with no explanation necessary. That is the reality which the British managers are using to their advantage with Cathay now being a Chinese Airline.
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Yes indeed, just like Eastern Air Lines....management that won't give and flight crews with no brains. When you think about it, all the CX management has to say is....Hello? Parc Aviation? And....
The queue forms to the right, single file please.
On the bright side, at least they are not stuck with....the two Franks', Borman or Lorenzo.
[ 09 August 2001: Message edited by: 411A ]
The queue forms to the right, single file please.
On the bright side, at least they are not stuck with....the two Franks', Borman or Lorenzo.
[ 09 August 2001: Message edited by: 411A ]
