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Old 10th Apr 2003, 20:14
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bird strike

A developing story from the BBC website

"A plane which has been damaged in a bird strike is preparing to make an emergency landing at Stansted Airport in Essex.
The Boeing 737 plane with 195 people on board has a damaged tail.

It has been confirmed that the airline involved is operated by Helios airways.

It was a flight bound for Cyprus.

The plane was to have made an emergency landing at Luton Airport but has now been diverted to Stanstead Airport.

The pilot intends to empty the fuel tanks before landing."
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Can be found here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2936177.stm

Why is the BBC reporting this? Seems a bit of a non-event to me.

Another example of media hysteria or was there a jouralist near the tower at the time?

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Great non-reporting. Nice picture of Gatwick as well - what relevance does that have or is it just a useless report. Hmm.
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Not sure if I'd describe a "damaged tail" as a non-event - how would AAIB classify it?

Though I agree it's not clear why they are reporting it "as-it-happens".

I'm sure all become clear later.
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These kinds of postings are not useful.

While I often quick read and assimilate reported events for info and relativity to aviation, time dependent info is mostly useless after one day (example News Headline "Latest Crash in Peoria Deadly") is only confusing in its relevance soon after its posting .
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Not sure if I'd describe a "damaged tail" as a non-event - how would AAIB classify it?
A damaged tail could mean any one of a thousand things, Most likely the jorno (like the rest of us) doesn't know exactly what the damage is or what problems the a/c has and so is speculating.

The AAIB will do what they always do, Investigate the incident a report. Don't forget that a LOT of AAIB reports quote the information source as 'report submitted by pilot and subsequent telephone enquries' simply because the event is a non event.


These kinds of postings are not useful.
Why not?

It's always interesting to see other peoples 'take' on these situations.

Also fun to laugh at media reporting.......

Gary.
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Old 10th Apr 2003, 22:06
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Talking I do not think YOU have missed something...

6hrs 20mins to Cyprus? Or have I just missed something?
I think the journo might have missed the 2hour time diff to Cyprus.

But you know you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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How does a bird hit the tail? If in flight attitude other then side on it would be almost impossible to hit the tail of the fusalage and chuffin unlucky to hit the tail on take off .. or do they mean the vertical stab (fin, whatever)

Is n't English a great way of confusing people.

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Fatality On Cyprus Bound Holiday Jet

"A bird was killed today after it was struck by a plane"

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Old 10th Apr 2003, 23:01
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It'd take 6 hours 20 mins to get to cyprus because of the unscheduled stop to repair the tail!!

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Lucifer - minor point but the picture isnt Gatwick.
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How does a bird hit the tail?
???........ Same way the air hits it dummy!!!

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Don't know the full details but apparently it was a tail strike out of LTN and it diverted to STN.This info comes from a fueller [so it must be true!] but it was apparently being refuelled shortly after,which is surprising as i'm sure that detailed inspections of the rear pressure bulkhead [amongst others] are required prior to further flight following a tailstrike.Not sure what engineering support was available to this operator at STN.As I say though,only rumour.
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Old 11th Apr 2003, 05:24
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Presumably a tailstrike, and a birdstrike on the tail are not the same thing?

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Old 11th Apr 2003, 05:48
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Wonderful journo turns of phrase

There was a story in the local rag a month or so back about birdstrikes. Said 'hundreds of birds are killed slamming into airliners every year'. Don't think it's the birds doing the slamming, unless there are any Blackburn Beverlys still around.
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Old 11th Apr 2003, 05:59
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No Genghis,a tailstrike is the rear end of the aircraft impacting the runway during rotation.The 737-800 and also -400 has a collapsable tail skid,which will indicate when a tail strike has occurred.As i'm led to believe in this case,the crew felt/heard the strike occur and they subsequently diverted into STN.
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... There was a story in the local rag a month or so back about birdstrikes. Said 'hundreds of birds are killed slamming into airliners every year'. Don't think it's the birds doing the slamming, unless there are any Blackburn Beverlys still around.
How long before PETA steps in to stop this terrible slaughtering of innocent birds . . .
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I presume tounge in cheek is not the same as a tailstrike either 123. I'm sure Genghis will appreciate your clarification.
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It's about time the unions were brought under control, all these strikes are ruining the economy.
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Old 11th Apr 2003, 17:32
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123, I think Ghengis knows more about tail strikes and their causes than most of us ever will. But there you are - yer hoomer is a difficult thing to express in print.

Anyway - so what really happened?

By the way Helios was started a few years back by the ex TEA Swiss guy Seiler - I think now booted out by the Cypriots
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