B737 bird strike 10/4/03
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How was the pilot going to empty the fuel tanks, fly around for seven hours. Never known a 737 being able to fuel dump.
What type of 73 can you get 195 pax on, seat pitch must be pretty awful. Not even Ryanair squeeze that many on.
What a crap thread, close it please moderator.
What type of 73 can you get 195 pax on, seat pitch must be pretty awful. Not even Ryanair squeeze that many on.
What a crap thread, close it please moderator.
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"A bird was killed today after it was struck by a plane"
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I do wish that the media were only allowed to print what an official source produced .........and kept quiet otherwise !
Who knows how serious or trivial this or any other media report is ? Why buy a newspaper or listen to the news these days ? It's all distortions.
"Damaged Tales" is more like it, usually !
Who knows how serious or trivial this or any other media report is ? Why buy a newspaper or listen to the news these days ? It's all distortions.
"Damaged Tales" is more like it, usually !
I do wish that the media were only allowed to print what an official source produced .........and kept quiet otherwise !
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Could sombody please explain to me how we have gone from a birdstrike on the tail to a tailstrike?
Sensational............ wheres Ghengis when you want him?
blimey,just like superman and twice as fast,he's here to save us all
Good old Ghengis
Sensational............ wheres Ghengis when you want him?
blimey,just like superman and twice as fast,he's here to save us all
Good old Ghengis
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Anthony Carn:
Are you really saying you’d prefer to live in a country where only officially sanctioned stories could be reported in the media and that dissenters could be “kept quiet”? 
Maybe somewhere like North Korea or pre-liberation Iraq? Incidentally, that lovable Iraqi Minister of Information, Mohammad Said al-Sahaf, has just released his official version of the birdstrike incident:
I do wish that the media were only allowed to print what an official source produced .........and kept quiet otherwise !
Maybe somewhere like North Korea or pre-liberation Iraq? Incidentally, that lovable Iraqi Minister of Information, Mohammad Said al-Sahaf, has just released his official version of the birdstrike incident:
“Yes it is true that one very small infidel aircraft did approach the mighty and brave seagull. However, the seagull fought with the aircraft for a short time and repelled its advances easily. The aircraft was forced to retreat to Stansted and will surely be crushed if it should provoke any seagull again. Also I can confirm that the seagull is alive and well with his people tonight and that the seagull seen on television is not a body double.”
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Tail hit rumway. Bird not involved!
It was a tail strike as confirmed by a runway inspection post departure and gouge found. No birds involved, the 737 now has a sore bottom according to rumour.
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I do wish that the media were only allowed to print what an official source produced .........and kept quiet otherwise !
To avoid further confusion, I'll clarify and expand that the media should, where possible or desirable, report FACTS, issued by OFFICIAL, COMPETENT AUTHORITIES, as opposed to sensationalised, invented, ill informed garbage produced by idiots who have zero knowledge or experience of the subject in question ! The motive which drives the media is'nt necessarily the unbiased reporting of the truth.
A tail strike on the runway surface during rotation (according to the latest posts here) was reported in the media (according to the earlier posts here) as a bird strike on the tail ! What does the Airline say ? What does the CAA say ? etc etc. Would'nt it be great to read a statement from someone who knows the FACTS of the matter ?
Regardless of the exact situation, I'm proposing, in general terms, that, unless it knows all facts accurately, the media should keep it's "mouth" shut until it receives a statement from an official, competent authority, or finds out the truth, without doubt !
Perhaps, even better and where applicable, the media should reproduce the statement of the competent authority word for word. The infamous editing of statements to alter their meaning should be prevented.
Any sensationalism, or (ahem) "clarification", could then be added separately as deemed necessary (or UNnecessary, more like it) in the interests of "free garbage" -- sorry, "free speech". At least the reader would have the option of analysing the whole and coming to his/her own conclusions.
Hope that's clear now ! Apologies for any confusion, if caused through any ambiguity on my part.
Sorry to go off topic - it was'nt supposed to take up an extra post.
Well, Anthony, I reckon you've just piled a few sap-filled logs on thy own pyre!
Trouble is, of course, despite our tremendous reliance on instant journalism no-one pays a blind bit of attention when a reporter happens to get it right first time. Then along comes a wacky thread like this one and whammo, the fact that whoever it was doing the instant reporting got it wrong appears far more important than the expensive/dangerous/job-threatening/let's-learn-something-from-this incident itself!
Rant over.
Trouble is, of course, despite our tremendous reliance on instant journalism no-one pays a blind bit of attention when a reporter happens to get it right first time. Then along comes a wacky thread like this one and whammo, the fact that whoever it was doing the instant reporting got it wrong appears far more important than the expensive/dangerous/job-threatening/let's-learn-something-from-this incident itself!
Rant over.
Having made an original tongue in cheek comment about somebody querying the lack of pressure checks for tailstrike following (what up to that point had been reported as) a birdstrike, I'm now just plain confused. Is this...
(a) A birdstrike, possibly on the tail
(b) A tailstrike, possibly to a bird, or more likely a 737
(c) Both
(d) Entirely unsubstantiated rumour to fill column space in a tabloid.
I think it was 1997 but might have been 1998 that the we had reported 5 sheepstrikes in the UK, which make a bigger dent, but barbeque better and virtually never happen to 737s.
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(a) A birdstrike, possibly on the tail
(b) A tailstrike, possibly to a bird, or more likely a 737
(c) Both
(d) Entirely unsubstantiated rumour to fill column space in a tabloid.
I think it was 1997 but might have been 1998 that the we had reported 5 sheepstrikes in the UK, which make a bigger dent, but barbeque better and virtually never happen to 737s.
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Gosh
This story has taken more twists & turns than a moonshiner trying to outrun the feds in Tennessee.
I completely lost track of whether the plane actually dumped fuel and landed or is still up in the air.
Damn war news has pushed it completely off the telly over here.
This story has taken more twists & turns than a moonshiner trying to outrun the feds in Tennessee.
I completely lost track of whether the plane actually dumped fuel and landed or is still up in the air.
Damn war news has pushed it completely off the telly over here.
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CITY STUDENTS IN PLANE TRIP SCARE
By Rob Neal Cambridge Evening News
YOUNG cricketers have described the terrifying moment the Boeing 737 they were travelling in appeared to hit the runway as they took off for a tour to Cyprus.
The cricketers, from The Leys School and The Perse School in Cambridge, were preparing to jet out to the Mediterranean for a pre-season tour in the sun.
But as the Helios Airlines flight took off from Luton Airport just after noon yesterday, disaster nearly struck.
"We took off and then there was this sudden thud," said James Bell, the 18-year-old captain of The Perse First XI.
"We said jokingly that we'd hit the tail and didn't think much of it after that until the captain came over the radio and informed us there was a problem."
Jonathan Mitchell, captain of The Leys team and long-time friend of fellow skipper James, said: "At the point of take-off as the plane leant back it seemed like the tail made contact with the tarmac.
"We didn't climb very high and the pilot said we were experiencing some technical difficulties. It was slightly unnerving but there wasn't mass panic. One passenger was walking around holding a cigarette in his mouth even though he couldn't light it."
His mother, Libby, speaking from the family's home in Meldreth, said the first she knew of the problem was when she was contacted by James' mother Shirley, who lives across the road.
"Shirley phoned to say she didn't want to worry me but the plane was circling Stansted trying to lose fuel," she said.
"At that point I was very worried, it was quite nerve-wracking."
After circling Stansted Airport for around two hours to burn off excess fuel, the Boeing 737, which was due to fly to Larnaca, finally made an emergency landing.
The passengers were left on the plane for nearly two hours before finally being transported to a waiting area.
"It's absolutely bizarre," said Mark Waldron, The Leys School tour manager.
"We've had no apology and no explanation since we first took off."
The teams, who were provided with food vouchers, eventually left for Cyprus at 10pm – a delay of around nine and a half hours.
A spokeswoman for Helios Airlines refused to confirm the cause of the delay, describing it as "a technical matter".
YOUNG cricketers have described the terrifying moment the Boeing 737 they were travelling in appeared to hit the runway as they took off for a tour to Cyprus.
The cricketers, from The Leys School and The Perse School in Cambridge, were preparing to jet out to the Mediterranean for a pre-season tour in the sun.
But as the Helios Airlines flight took off from Luton Airport just after noon yesterday, disaster nearly struck.
"We took off and then there was this sudden thud," said James Bell, the 18-year-old captain of The Perse First XI.
"We said jokingly that we'd hit the tail and didn't think much of it after that until the captain came over the radio and informed us there was a problem."
Jonathan Mitchell, captain of The Leys team and long-time friend of fellow skipper James, said: "At the point of take-off as the plane leant back it seemed like the tail made contact with the tarmac.
"We didn't climb very high and the pilot said we were experiencing some technical difficulties. It was slightly unnerving but there wasn't mass panic. One passenger was walking around holding a cigarette in his mouth even though he couldn't light it."
His mother, Libby, speaking from the family's home in Meldreth, said the first she knew of the problem was when she was contacted by James' mother Shirley, who lives across the road.
"Shirley phoned to say she didn't want to worry me but the plane was circling Stansted trying to lose fuel," she said.
"At that point I was very worried, it was quite nerve-wracking."
After circling Stansted Airport for around two hours to burn off excess fuel, the Boeing 737, which was due to fly to Larnaca, finally made an emergency landing.
The passengers were left on the plane for nearly two hours before finally being transported to a waiting area.
"It's absolutely bizarre," said Mark Waldron, The Leys School tour manager.
"We've had no apology and no explanation since we first took off."
The teams, who were provided with food vouchers, eventually left for Cyprus at 10pm – a delay of around nine and a half hours.
A spokeswoman for Helios Airlines refused to confirm the cause of the delay, describing it as "a technical matter".
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I think you will find that I was referring to the media reporting the fact that an actual tail strike was a relayed to the public as a major bird strike; I merely confirmed conjecture by revealing the news relating to a gouge on the runway caused by a Boeing Botty!
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So how do you tail strike a computer infested Boeing beast? I thought that all the gizmo's on board would stop a sore @rse on rotation??????????
C of G issues here or a computer ‘off day’??????????????????
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So how do you tail strike a computer infested Boeing beast? I thought that all the gizmo's on board would stop a sore @rse on rotation??????????
C of G issues here or a computer ‘off day’??????????????????
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Tail strike! See previous post!
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Tail strike! See previous post!
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