easyjet board for rough ride
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Mr Ree, If that is what it is like for you now,I have no doubt the sound of your whinging will be deafening after Summer! It's so refreshing, isn't it, those of you that have been here 5 minutes trying to tell those of us that have been here 6 years that we don't know what we are talking about!
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I agree there is no doubt Airbus have done an astounding deal. Everyone knew eJ had done a thorough assessment, and if they bought Boeing at that stage it would almost certainly have sent a message to other lo-cost airlines to stick with Boeing and not bother with the assessment!
However, I am convinced the Airbus is a good deal. The 737 is an old piece of kit (albeit dressed up with a glass cockpit). The Airbus gives a lot of advantages, including growth potential and commonality, in a 'handling-friendly' airframe, which I don't believe the 737 can offer.
This is not intended to start yet another Boeing v Airbus debate (the accountants don't care what the Pilots prefer!) but I genuinely do believe the Airbus is the better aircraft for eJ in the long term......as long as the introduction is properly managed!
I agree there is no doubt Airbus have done an astounding deal. Everyone knew eJ had done a thorough assessment, and if they bought Boeing at that stage it would almost certainly have sent a message to other lo-cost airlines to stick with Boeing and not bother with the assessment!
However, I am convinced the Airbus is a good deal. The 737 is an old piece of kit (albeit dressed up with a glass cockpit). The Airbus gives a lot of advantages, including growth potential and commonality, in a 'handling-friendly' airframe, which I don't believe the 737 can offer.
This is not intended to start yet another Boeing v Airbus debate (the accountants don't care what the Pilots prefer!) but I genuinely do believe the Airbus is the better aircraft for eJ in the long term......as long as the introduction is properly managed!
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I was there last summer and it was bad. No doubt about it. But for longer than it was bad it is good. I enjoy the job and with one exception no one winges about it while we are flying and the one who does is a nice guy anyway : he just likes wingeing.
As a matter of interest to those who read this far and wide, nearly everyone I fly with never ever reads pprune. Either cos they don't have a computer or they find the material on offer too negative. And, funnily enough, they are not negative people, hence the lack of wingeing. So I am lucky, cos I go to work with people who enjoy the job, have a great sense of humour and I get paid for it. And I get to go home early sometimes.
As a matter of interest to those who read this far and wide, nearly everyone I fly with never ever reads pprune. Either cos they don't have a computer or they find the material on offer too negative. And, funnily enough, they are not negative people, hence the lack of wingeing. So I am lucky, cos I go to work with people who enjoy the job, have a great sense of humour and I get paid for it. And I get to go home early sometimes.
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I also do not want to start an airbus v boeing debate. As well as the accountants, I do not care what I fly. I notice you attached an important caveat to your post..." as long as it is properly managed"....too true.Personally, I am hoping the shareholders will use the EGM to ascertain that very fact. I stand by my statement that the total cost to the airline of buying airbus is going to exceed what the board have budgeted. In a plc this is unacceptable and I hope the beancounters are as keen to reign in individuals who cost the company money as they are pilot costs.
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No it's not bollocks. I like flying for easyJet. I haven't heard anyone come in the crew-room and say "I hate this job and I'm leaving."The guys I fly with do not read pprune. They are aware of pprune but find the continual negativity of most of the postings boring. Look, I've been flying since the 1980s and I have seen some good things and not so good things. Right now easyJet is one of the best outfits I have worked for. Sure sometimes I get a hard weeks flying and sometimes I don't, and most definately last summer was crap, but the guts of it is I like it and most of the guys, not all but most, when pressed and daring to be politically incorrect will admit they like it too. Unfortunately they aren't too bothered about reading pprune so I guess I'm on my own on this forum.
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Mr Ree, just for your information, 198 easyJet pilots have registered Usernames on PPRuNe and have been given access to the easyJet private forum. I am confident you can add quite a few more who have registered usernames but not requested access to the easyJet private forum and add even more who have not registered but do read PPRuNe.
If you want to quote statisitcs regarding how many of your colleagues read PPRuNe then please use verifiable and recorded data and not the fact that some of your fellow pilots do not necessarily like to admit to you that they read PPRuNe. It is my experience that many pilots do not like admitting to their colleagues that they read PPRuNe because of fears that they will somehow be targeted by someone higher up the food chain. Whilst these fears are usually unfounded, they remain a real problem for some. A bit like "if you show me yours, I'll show you mine" syndrome. no one wants to be the first to admit to reading these pages.
If you want to quote statisitcs regarding how many of your colleagues read PPRuNe then please use verifiable and recorded data and not the fact that some of your fellow pilots do not necessarily like to admit to you that they read PPRuNe. It is my experience that many pilots do not like admitting to their colleagues that they read PPRuNe because of fears that they will somehow be targeted by someone higher up the food chain. Whilst these fears are usually unfounded, they remain a real problem for some. A bit like "if you show me yours, I'll show you mine" syndrome. no one wants to be the first to admit to reading these pages.
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Danny,
I agree with what you have written, and clearly many eJ pilots do read PPRUNE. However, Mr Ree makes a good point, and highlights the fact that, WHATEVER THE AIRLINE, things are rarely quite as bad as the pages of PPRUNE appear.
Whether the thread is in relation to eJ, RYR, BA, or whoever, there will always be a small proportion of the workforce who are very prolific 'posters' (often with very valid reasons) which will inevitably give a negative view.
It's refreshing to see a positive post such as this. Good on yer Mr Ree.
I agree with what you have written, and clearly many eJ pilots do read PPRUNE. However, Mr Ree makes a good point, and highlights the fact that, WHATEVER THE AIRLINE, things are rarely quite as bad as the pages of PPRUNE appear.
Whether the thread is in relation to eJ, RYR, BA, or whoever, there will always be a small proportion of the workforce who are very prolific 'posters' (often with very valid reasons) which will inevitably give a negative view.
It's refreshing to see a positive post such as this. Good on yer Mr Ree.
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easyJest board for rogh ride?
easyJet board for rough ride? Er..... don't think so! Proposed Scarebus order and options nodded through just as expected!
Good luck to all existing and future side-stick jockeys.... and keep your wingtips off the tarmac!
Good luck to all existing and future side-stick jockeys.... and keep your wingtips off the tarmac!
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Hear hear Mr Ree.
I've worked for many aviation organisations over the last 30 years and easyJet, even with all it's problems like rostering and crewing, is by far and away the best of the bunch. And I've worked for 'the world's favourite' and the CAA.
I've just finished 8 sectors in 2 days, each and every one departed and arrived ahead of schedule, and average load factor in the high eighties.
As for the rest of you who like to winge, fine it's your prerogative. Sometimes however it looks rather like 'autowinge', a favourite of the engineers working for the long gone Rothmans aerobatic team.
Capt. Reepicheap ..... small and furry, but armed and deadly.
I've worked for many aviation organisations over the last 30 years and easyJet, even with all it's problems like rostering and crewing, is by far and away the best of the bunch. And I've worked for 'the world's favourite' and the CAA.
I've just finished 8 sectors in 2 days, each and every one departed and arrived ahead of schedule, and average load factor in the high eighties.
As for the rest of you who like to winge, fine it's your prerogative. Sometimes however it looks rather like 'autowinge', a favourite of the engineers working for the long gone Rothmans aerobatic team.
Capt. Reepicheap ..... small and furry, but armed and deadly.
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I thought only military pilots were allowed to take 'uppers'. Must be a secret supply hidden away in the Luton crewroom.
... and don't tell me you whistle on your way to work and carry a knapsack on your back!!!
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I thought only military pilots were allowed to take 'uppers'. Must be a secret supply hidden away in the Luton crewroom.
... and don't tell me you whistle on your way to work and carry a knapsack on your back!!!
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None of it! Mr Ree and Capt Reepicheep make a Reefreshing change from the Grim Reeper aka Pilotofjet. or whatever allinonename he has chosen this week...
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Mr Ree
Gota say thanks as well 4 ur ray of light. Most of my last 4+ years at EZY have been ****, but i'm still here.........
....... and the day i finally have enough I wont spend months moaning on about it, I'll hand in my notice and ?@&* off!
BHX
Gota say thanks as well 4 ur ray of light. Most of my last 4+ years at EZY have been ****, but i'm still here.........
....... and the day i finally have enough I wont spend months moaning on about it, I'll hand in my notice and ?@&* off!
BHX
An outbreak of morale at camp x-ray? surely not!! 
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easy bashing seems to be very much in vogue at the moment. Some of the gripes are genuine, but many seem nothing more than pure incitement - and usually by the same familiar names. It's good to read some positive comments for a change.
What's the point in repeatedly moaning in public about your job or employer? It just makes you look a prat for putting up with it. If you're going to stay with the company then talk publically about the good points and save the complaints for those who give a fig. At least people won't think you foolish for working there. If you don't care what people think, then why burden us with what you think?
Let's have more happiness - this website's turning into the forum equivalent of "Eastenders"! (Highly depressing, though popular British TV soap, for all you non UK residents.)
What's the point in repeatedly moaning in public about your job or employer? It just makes you look a prat for putting up with it. If you're going to stay with the company then talk publically about the good points and save the complaints for those who give a fig. At least people won't think you foolish for working there. If you don't care what people think, then why burden us with what you think?
Let's have more happiness - this website's turning into the forum equivalent of "Eastenders"! (Highly depressing, though popular British TV soap, for all you non UK residents.)
