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Old 19th Feb 2003, 00:49
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For $47 you could have owned… AirCanada pilot’s manual

“An Air Canada ground worker has been charged with theft after using the Internet to try to sell a pilot's manual that would typically contain a wealth of sensitive, security-related information.
Police arrested a suspect at his Brampton, Ont., home, where they say they found the manual and a set of Air Canada flight charts, which also usually include sensitive material.
The flight operations manual discusses how crews should handle hijackings and bomb threats, includes information about access to the locked cockpit area and discusses who holds keys to the cockpit door, according to one pilot.
There are also instructions on how to retrieve passenger lists and seating plans from Air Canada computers.
The manual and the flight charts were listed for sale on the eBay Internet auction site for most of last week.
Although he is an airline employee based at Pearson International Airport in Toronto, the man arrested on Sunday was not supposed to have a copy of the manual, said Constable Heather Andrews of Peel Regional Police.
"It was a money thing, but he wasn't thinking about what could happen if it got into the wrong hands," she said. "This is secretive, sensitive material."
The man has been suspended by Air Canada pending the outcome of the court case and an internal investigation, said Laura Cooke, a spokeswoman for the company. The air carrier wants to ensure such manuals cannot slip into the wrong hands in the future.
The eBay listing described the flight operations manual as a 2002 "captain's edition," covering every aspect of the operation of an aircraft and never before used.
Late Friday afternoon, eBay cut short the sale, which had opened a week ago. By then, the seller had received five bids, with the highest being US$46.
Also up for grabs was a set of flight charts showing "flight paths, routings, altitudes, airport approach paths and runway layouts ... definitely a must for an amateur aviator or an airline enthusiast." Among the sensitive information included with the charts are the names and locations of hotels used by Air Canada crew, the pilot said.
Robert Paul Gaglione, 47, is charged with theft under $5,000 and possession of property obtained by crime.
He is scheduled to appear in court on March 10.”

As stupid as the greedy folks that pulled similar stunts after Columbia tragedy.

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Old 19th Feb 2003, 04:30
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>>Among the sensitive information included with the charts are the names and locations of hotels used by Air Canada crew, the pilot said. <<

Thank God he didn't find an old bid package in the trash at the gate...
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Old 19th Feb 2003, 21:53
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Not on I know but how much of the sensitive information could not be obtained elsewhere with a little dilligent research?

Not too much I imagine, and as for the charts I would imagine you can still buy these from a legitimate source, if not the Air Canada version.
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Old 20th Feb 2003, 21:13
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Lots of manuals for sale here eg A320, A340,747-400, 777etc

http://www.tamcosystems.com/cgi-bin/...nual&field=all
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It is not difficult to imagine what happens to old Jeppesen charts and pages from manuals, or where they could be found, but then the FBI agent in Minneapolis who had serious concerns in 2001 about certain 'contract' simulator students said that her worries never elicited any serious responses from the FBI.

A C-130 pilot who many years ago was at CCK (?) in the Pacific Rim once saw an 'unusual' navigational chart blow out of his neighbors garbage can. When he gave it to the pilot who lived next door, the guy was shocked and either tore it into tiny pieces or burned it or both. Ancient philosopher say man should not jog in area which has 'running dogs', or "boys who wear silver suits".

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Old 23rd Feb 2003, 05:48
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Wouldnt the 'bad people' be working harder to find the manual now that they know it contains so many sensitive information after reading this press release?

I think they shouldnt have made this known.
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Back in time, Swissair issued its own manuals. In the "Route Manual" were exactly the kind of items relating to terrorism mentioned above. In those pre-sept 11 days crews were advised to cooperate with hijackers etc. Very useful stuff for a future hijacker to know.

The manuals were kept by the pilots and were revised regularly - a job often done "down the route" where there was time to kill. Result - the old pages landed in the bin.

When I made representations about this, the result was a red stripe made on the sensitive pages - no reason was given to the crews. That made it easier to find the pages in the bin...
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