Airport Security- An Inside view
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A number of you have praised LY security but ELAL does not make a profit neither is it known for its good customer service. The regidity they apply would not be accepted by us. Look at the fuss over the 'jump seat' for example.
It is run on military lines and I stand to be corrected but much of the security staff and costs are met by Israely government
It is run on military lines and I stand to be corrected but much of the security staff and costs are met by Israely government
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I agree. Common courtesy goes a long way. We're taught to be friendly and polite. I always try to have a smile on my face, b/c I keep in mind that if it weren't for people buying plane tickets, I would be out of a job. Those screeners who are rude and scowling should be in another industry, since we are working with people. Same for people who work in traditional customer service positions, such as cashiers, waiters, etc. It can be hard to keep smiling when people are cursing at you and throwing things at you, but I still try to be friendly...most passengers are friendly and cooperative. As for trust, I, for one, have never worried about a pilot possibly compromising my safety. Otherwise, I'd never get on a plane.
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Man Airport Security
ONLY PROFESSIONALS SHOULD APPLY !!
Pay £11,500 pa inclusive gross 42hr week
4am starts midnight finishes working most weekends
Rosters and pay can be found on www.magalliance.co.uk
Hundreds Apply For Jobs As Airport Security Officers
They come from all walks of life to train as security officers at Manchester Airport.
Everybody from company directors milkmen, teachers, senior police officers and law students want to put on the blue uniform and undergo the rigorous training programme.
Last year, a staggering 759 people applied for jobs as security officers. So far, this year, the airport has received 270 applications for security officer jobs since an advert went into the airport Jobcentre four weeks ago.
The rigorous training programme lasts three weeks and recruits are shown how to search people and search bags, use of X-ray screening machines, searching aircraft and vehicles, detection of explosives, recognition of
weapons, firearms and explosive devices, patrolling, as well as questioning
passengers and dealing with aggressive behaviour.
The training is done in classroom conditions but there is plenty of on the job training under supervision from trainers and team leaders. The recruits are given a daily test and have to pass a written exam at the end of the course.
John Cordingley, Aviation Security Training Consultant at Manchester Airport, said: "The training programme is very rigorous over the three- week period. The recruits have to take a test each day and then a final written exam at the end of the course.
"Security staff also have continuous training after they qualify to keep them aware of changes in technology and equipment as well as regulatory requirements in the National Aviation Security Programme."
Date 11/2/2003
Pay £11,500 pa inclusive gross 42hr week
4am starts midnight finishes working most weekends
Rosters and pay can be found on www.magalliance.co.uk
Hundreds Apply For Jobs As Airport Security Officers
They come from all walks of life to train as security officers at Manchester Airport.
Everybody from company directors milkmen, teachers, senior police officers and law students want to put on the blue uniform and undergo the rigorous training programme.
Last year, a staggering 759 people applied for jobs as security officers. So far, this year, the airport has received 270 applications for security officer jobs since an advert went into the airport Jobcentre four weeks ago.
The rigorous training programme lasts three weeks and recruits are shown how to search people and search bags, use of X-ray screening machines, searching aircraft and vehicles, detection of explosives, recognition of
weapons, firearms and explosive devices, patrolling, as well as questioning
passengers and dealing with aggressive behaviour.
The training is done in classroom conditions but there is plenty of on the job training under supervision from trainers and team leaders. The recruits are given a daily test and have to pass a written exam at the end of the course.
John Cordingley, Aviation Security Training Consultant at Manchester Airport, said: "The training programme is very rigorous over the three- week period. The recruits have to take a test each day and then a final written exam at the end of the course.
"Security staff also have continuous training after they qualify to keep them aware of changes in technology and equipment as well as regulatory requirements in the National Aviation Security Programme."
Date 11/2/2003
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Boofhead is 100% correct!
surely not,
Please don't take this as a flame, as it is not intended that way.
What about the "trusted" ground pounders (which is nearly ALL of them) that are not required to submit to passenger screening? I guess a person holding an easily obtainable, minimum wage job on the ramp is less likely to be coerced into bad things than a highly paid professional who doesn't need a weapon to fly an aircraft into a building?
Then you should be feeling very aggrieved right now, since the ONLY employee groups (in the US) that submit to passenger or any other type of "security" screening are pilots and flight attendants. The rest enter through the back door. Prior to 1987, pilots and flight attendants were also exempt from passenger screening. Due to the actions of a ground ops employee (PSA 1771, do a google search) pilots and flight attendants, but NOT ground ops employees, were thereafter required to submit to passenger screening. It was the first act of "The Greatest Security Show on Earth, and it was way before 9/11.
Aircrew are required to submit to passenger screening for one reason, and one reason only. It makes a great PR show for the passengers to see easily identifiable, authority figures submitting to the same screening that they receive. They are not aware that while the front door is locked tight, the back door is wide open.
How much sense does it make to screen every bag for explosives, then, immediately after said bag exits the machine, the unlocked bag is picked up and handled by an entry level, ground ops worker, that entered the "secure" area, unchecked, through the back door? Meanwhile, the Captain of the same plane that that bag is loaded on to is standing at the passenger screening checkpoint in his socks, holding up his pants trying to explain to the TSA the FAA requirement to carry an operating flashlight or comm. headset (it has happened to me. They let me carry my plastic, 2 "d" cell flashlight....."this time"
).
The only "sheep" whose lives have been made more difficult are ironically those that don't need a weapon to "take Over" the aircraft, IE pilots. The bad guys, while they may be crazy, are not stupid. They will take the path of least resistance, and that is not in a pilot's uniform. It would be much more difficult for a bad guy to impersonate a pilot in any case, and if he did, and got away with it, all of the fondling in the world would not stop him from flying the aircraft into a building, since he would already be IN the cockpit. The same goes for pilots in general. Either we are trusted or we are not trusted. If we are not trusted, then we should not be given complete control over a potential weapon of mass destruction. If we are trusted, then we shouldn't be standing in our socks every day, explaining to the HS dropouts why we need certain items to operate the aforementioned, potential WMD.
These points may seem redundant, but I feel they illustrate the complete farce that passes for "security", at least in the US. If it weren't such a serious issue, it would make a great comedy show!
surely not,
Please don't take this as a flame, as it is not intended that way.
Unless I am mistaken Aircrew have the same financial and personal pressures as we lesser mortals. These pressures could result in them taking a one-off payment to assist a person out to create trouble.
I would feel very aggrieved if they were ever exempted from the Security checks.
Aircrew are required to submit to passenger screening for one reason, and one reason only. It makes a great PR show for the passengers to see easily identifiable, authority figures submitting to the same screening that they receive. They are not aware that while the front door is locked tight, the back door is wide open.
How much sense does it make to screen every bag for explosives, then, immediately after said bag exits the machine, the unlocked bag is picked up and handled by an entry level, ground ops worker, that entered the "secure" area, unchecked, through the back door? Meanwhile, the Captain of the same plane that that bag is loaded on to is standing at the passenger screening checkpoint in his socks, holding up his pants trying to explain to the TSA the FAA requirement to carry an operating flashlight or comm. headset (it has happened to me. They let me carry my plastic, 2 "d" cell flashlight....."this time"
).
To the postee who pleaded that they would never stoop so low, great news, but unfortunately there might be others who would, so go through the checks and make life more difficult for the bad sheep.
These points may seem redundant, but I feel they illustrate the complete farce that passes for "security", at least in the US. If it weren't such a serious issue, it would make a great comedy show!
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On the lighter side of life, does anybody know if Pprune lapel badges are cleared for travel - or are they classified as dangerous weapons? !!!!!!
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"undergo the rigorous training programme"
Humm... Yeah right, ever been thought west gate? They just tap your sides and nod you though..
You only get searched when passengers can see or when they say to you .. they are watching us today we have to search you properley.
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Humm... Yeah right, ever been thought west gate? They just tap your sides and nod you though..
You only get searched when passengers can see or when they say to you .. they are watching us today we have to search you properley.
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