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This from Ananova:
"An airliner has made an emergency landing on a river on the Indonesian island of Java during a heavy rainstorm.
Police said only three out of the 54 passengers and crew on board the Boeing 737-300 were seriously injured.
It came down on the Benjawang Solo River.
The plane, operated by Garuda Indonesia, had been on a flight from the tourist island of Lombok to the city of Yogyakarta, 14 miles west of the crash site.
An airline official said it was not known what went wrong on flight GA-421.
A statement from Garuda said all on board had been taken to hospitals.
It said the crash occurred when the plane was 20 minutes away from landing. It is not clear if any foreigners were aboard."
"An airliner has made an emergency landing on a river on the Indonesian island of Java during a heavy rainstorm.
Police said only three out of the 54 passengers and crew on board the Boeing 737-300 were seriously injured.
It came down on the Benjawang Solo River.
The plane, operated by Garuda Indonesia, had been on a flight from the tourist island of Lombok to the city of Yogyakarta, 14 miles west of the crash site.
An airline official said it was not known what went wrong on flight GA-421.
A statement from Garuda said all on board had been taken to hospitals.
It said the crash occurred when the plane was 20 minutes away from landing. It is not clear if any foreigners were aboard."
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Indonesian plane crash-lands in river
AFP [ WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 16, 2002 5:42:53 PM ]
AKARTA: A Garuda Indonesia airline Boeing 737 carrying 51 passengers crash-landed Wednesday into a river in Central Java, injuring several people, airport officials said.
The plane had been bound for the central Java city of Yogyakarta from the island of Lombok, near the resort island of Bali, when it crash-landed in the Bengawan Solo river some 30 kilometres northeast of its destination.
"No one was killed, the aircraft was not too damaged because it landed in the water, only the right wing was broken," said Hariyadi Subagyo, the head of the Yogyakarta airport administration.
Indonesian plane crash-lands in river
AFP [ WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 16, 2002 5:42:53 PM ]
AKARTA: A Garuda Indonesia airline Boeing 737 carrying 51 passengers crash-landed Wednesday into a river in Central Java, injuring several people, airport officials said.
The plane had been bound for the central Java city of Yogyakarta from the island of Lombok, near the resort island of Bali, when it crash-landed in the Bengawan Solo river some 30 kilometres northeast of its destination.
"No one was killed, the aircraft was not too damaged because it landed in the water, only the right wing was broken," said Hariyadi Subagyo, the head of the Yogyakarta airport administration.
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Any further info re: this crash (causes etc.) and any news from the Lion Air accident? Didn't find any links with images from these two sad incidents yet; to view extent of damage. Both reports seem to minimize the damage involved.
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JAKARTA: A Boeing 737-300 jetliner swaying violently through a monsoonal downpour with apparent engine failure has crash-landed in Indonesia killing one flight attendant.
The Garuda Indonesia plane - with 54 passengers and six crew aboard - came down on the Bengawan Solo River, that cuts through densely populated farmland on Indonesia's main island of Java about 500km east of Jakarta.
Local villagers immediately rushed to the crash site and helped the survivors wade through one-metre deep water from the plane to the banks of the river.
"To survive this is a miracle, especially for my pregnant wife," one of the passengers, Farhan Sunkar, was quoted as saying by El-Shinta radio.
"We landed hard but I only realised it was a crash landing when I saw the water."
Sunkar said he and his wife escaped from the fuselage, which was still in one piece, through an emergency exit.
Hospital officials said seven other people on board were seriously injured and were being treated in the nearby city of Solo. Several others were lightly injured.
The state Antara news agency quoted another passenger, Mawardi, as saying the plane's engines stopped working before it crash-landed. Like many Indonesians Mawardi uses only one name.
He said the aircraft was rocking from side to side as it reduced altitude.
The plane had been on a flight from the tourist island of Lombok to the city of Yogyakarta, about 25km west of the crash site.
Police Sergeant Petrus Sartono said the plane was sitting on its bottom on the river bed. However, most of the fuselage was above the waterline.
A Garuda official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it appeared at least four foreigners were on the plane.
He said officials were checking the passenger list for foreign-sounding names as they did not have a list of their nationalities because it was a domestic flight.
An airline official said it was not known what went wrong on flight GA-421. The crash happened 20 minutes before it was scheduled to land.
The location of the emergency landing is in one of the most heavily populated rural areas in the world, home to hundreds of thousands of people.
It is likely the pilot chose the 25-metre-wide river for the landing as it was the only area not covered by houses or rice fields.
It was the second emergency landing by an Indonesian-owned Boeing 737 in three days.
On Monday, seven people were injured when a Lion Air passenger jet crash-landed immediately after taking off from an airport near the town of Pekanbaru, on Sumatra island.
Today's accident was the latest in a string suffered by Garuda in recent years.
In 1997, a Garuda Airbus A-300 approaching Medan Airport in north Sumatra crashed into a jungle and exploded while trying to land in thick smoke caused by forest fires. All 234 aboard are killed.
The Garuda Indonesia plane - with 54 passengers and six crew aboard - came down on the Bengawan Solo River, that cuts through densely populated farmland on Indonesia's main island of Java about 500km east of Jakarta.
Local villagers immediately rushed to the crash site and helped the survivors wade through one-metre deep water from the plane to the banks of the river.
"To survive this is a miracle, especially for my pregnant wife," one of the passengers, Farhan Sunkar, was quoted as saying by El-Shinta radio.
"We landed hard but I only realised it was a crash landing when I saw the water."
Sunkar said he and his wife escaped from the fuselage, which was still in one piece, through an emergency exit.
Hospital officials said seven other people on board were seriously injured and were being treated in the nearby city of Solo. Several others were lightly injured.
The state Antara news agency quoted another passenger, Mawardi, as saying the plane's engines stopped working before it crash-landed. Like many Indonesians Mawardi uses only one name.
He said the aircraft was rocking from side to side as it reduced altitude.
The plane had been on a flight from the tourist island of Lombok to the city of Yogyakarta, about 25km west of the crash site.
Police Sergeant Petrus Sartono said the plane was sitting on its bottom on the river bed. However, most of the fuselage was above the waterline.
A Garuda official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it appeared at least four foreigners were on the plane.
He said officials were checking the passenger list for foreign-sounding names as they did not have a list of their nationalities because it was a domestic flight.
An airline official said it was not known what went wrong on flight GA-421. The crash happened 20 minutes before it was scheduled to land.
The location of the emergency landing is in one of the most heavily populated rural areas in the world, home to hundreds of thousands of people.
It is likely the pilot chose the 25-metre-wide river for the landing as it was the only area not covered by houses or rice fields.
It was the second emergency landing by an Indonesian-owned Boeing 737 in three days.
On Monday, seven people were injured when a Lion Air passenger jet crash-landed immediately after taking off from an airport near the town of Pekanbaru, on Sumatra island.
Today's accident was the latest in a string suffered by Garuda in recent years.
In 1997, a Garuda Airbus A-300 approaching Medan Airport in north Sumatra crashed into a jungle and exploded while trying to land in thick smoke caused by forest fires. All 234 aboard are killed.
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Does anybody have more information on the event? Are we talking about a glide-ditching into a river: for so many to get out this would be a very fortunate outcome, excluding the unfortunate member of the CC.
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Answering my own Q, sorry.
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Looks like a very scary walk away. If anyone reads Bahasa they could do a quick summary
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Looks like a very scary walk away. If anyone reads Bahasa they could do a quick summary
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ATI reports (from a Garuda statement) that both engines flamed out when the a/c entered a cloudburst whilst descending from FL320 to FL230. Despite several efforts the crew could not relight (CFM56's).
My congrats to the pilot for making such a small splash.
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My congrats to the pilot for making such a small splash.
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>ATI reports (from a Garuda statement) that both engines flamed out when the a/c entered a cloudburst whilst descending from FL320 to FL230.
Despite several efforts the crew could not relight (CFM56's).<
Very strange indeed considering that if operated above min idle, as placarded, that these engines can take massive amounts of water without flaming out
In fact it actually takes ice mixed with rain to even flame them out if operated at min idle.
No surprise about the inability to relight. It's tough to relight outside the normal restart envelope and especially so if the compressors were damaged internally.
Despite several efforts the crew could not relight (CFM56's).<
Very strange indeed considering that if operated above min idle, as placarded, that these engines can take massive amounts of water without flaming out
In fact it actually takes ice mixed with rain to even flame them out if operated at min idle.
No surprise about the inability to relight. It's tough to relight outside the normal restart envelope and especially so if the compressors were damaged internally.
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Something about the 732 Lion Air incident on Monday:
The unlisted accident was:
PK-LID, B737-200, Lion Air (Leased from National Aviation & International Air & Sea Lease Inc.), 14Jan02, 1010Z+7, ran off runway at Pekanbaru (PKU) operating a flight to Batam (BTH) just across the ditch from Singapore. Aborted take off, 90 pax, 5 crew, no fatalities. Capt. Zayarli Zain, FO Ahmad Luthfi.
Engine warning came online during take off, aborted, overran R18 by 125m, heavily damaged, rightwing snapped, right engine and landing gear detached.
Fleet: Yak42 (progressively withdrawn), 732 (-LIA & LID), 2 A313, 1 MD82.
Picture link through <a href="http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2002-01-16/A4_0116.jpg" target="_blank">http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2002-01-16/A4_0116.jpg</a>
According to a pax report, the plane was 10m off the ground when it fell.
The unlisted accident was:
PK-LID, B737-200, Lion Air (Leased from National Aviation & International Air & Sea Lease Inc.), 14Jan02, 1010Z+7, ran off runway at Pekanbaru (PKU) operating a flight to Batam (BTH) just across the ditch from Singapore. Aborted take off, 90 pax, 5 crew, no fatalities. Capt. Zayarli Zain, FO Ahmad Luthfi.
Engine warning came online during take off, aborted, overran R18 by 125m, heavily damaged, rightwing snapped, right engine and landing gear detached.
Fleet: Yak42 (progressively withdrawn), 732 (-LIA & LID), 2 A313, 1 MD82.
Picture link through <a href="http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2002-01-16/A4_0116.jpg" target="_blank">http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2002-01-16/A4_0116.jpg</a>
According to a pax report, the plane was 10m off the ground when it fell.
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Here;s something I wrote on another board about the GA crash...
Just been reading the newspapers. It seems that details of the crash have come out pretty quick because the aircraft landed in populated area, albeit in the middle of the river, and near a bridge, hence it attracted a lot of attention and enabled a quick rescue to be carried out. Below here is some that I’ve read from Kompas Newspaper and Jakarta Post.
Most passengers did not suspect an emergency when the impact occurred, and most were wearing their seatbelts. Some passengers have said that they thought it was a very rough landing. Only after the cabin crew scrambled to the exits and screamed “emergency! Emergency, please evacuate the aircraft” did they realize. Some realized when seeing a vast pool of water out of their windows when the aircraft stopped.
Another account however have indicated that at the last few moments, cabin crew were racing up and down the cabin screaming emergency and making sure that everyone was buckled in before sitting in their stations.
Some eyewitnesses have said the aircraft have been circling above around the crash site, and then suddenly dropped into the river. A wing hit a dyke/embankment before hitting the water, hence the damage. No damage to houses or rice fields were apparent.
One witness said “it came from the east, then turned back to the east suddenly, then turned away westwards before landing in the river. There was smoke coming out of the left engine.” Mulyono, the witness, was fishing in the river not far from the crash site.
The aircraft now floating slightly, with both wings declared structurally “snapped.”
It is suspected that the plane have suffered a dual flame-out, due to heavy water and icing. It appears the pilots were trying to relit the engines until the last moment. Re-lighting was not possible due to the wet air and low altitude.
Another theory is that is suffered from total hydraulic failure, but the pilot never issued a mayday, and this has been dismissed from the priority cause of the crash. Jogjakarta tower lost contact with the aircraft and APU was on. The pilot’s lack of communication could be attributed to an electronic malfunction possibly due to lightning strike.
A Pelita F28 behind the 737 as requested to hold at 12,000 feet over Solo, about 45 mins drive away from Jogjakarta. The F28 pilot have said that the weather was raining very heavily.
The local army commander in charge of the rescue operation regretted that people were just watching the crash and slowed down the rescue including evacuation of personal property. However, the logbook, FDR and CVR have been secured.
The locals however did manage to persuade passengers to jump off the aircraft into the river because it was only “knee deep”.
Capt. Abdul Rozak and FO Gunawan is reported to be in hospital but his location is kept secret in case some relatives would like to avenge the tragedy (the Approach ATCO on duty in Medan during the A300 crash a few years back also had the same treatment, and vigilantes did go after him). FA Santi Anggraini died after drowning in the river.
All injured have been taken to R. Koen Hospital in Solo, and or have been placed in Hotel Cakra in Solo, where Garuda have set up a crisis center.
So far I’m quite happy at the local press for identifying the aircraft correctly as 737-300, PK-GWA.
I was at CGK shortly about 30 mins after the crash. GA421 had already been declared “cancelled” It was pouring down with some lightning, so I decided to go spotting. However, I was there to pick up my friend flying on GA211, scheduled to go arrive about 1 hr before GA421. He told me that the wx in Solo (where he drove from earlier) was bloody awful with lightning and heavy downpour, Jogjakarta was also raining heavily. He boarded GA211 on time, and then the pax were told to go off the aircraft and returned to the terminal. They left around the same time as GA421’s scheduled flight. GA told them that they had to wait and pick up passengers from GA421 due to an operational problem. It was not until they landed in CGK that the real reason was disclosed to the pax.
The arrivals board in CGK T2 was blacked out. We had to monitor arrivals from small TV screens.
May Santi rest in Peace.
Gerry
Just been reading the newspapers. It seems that details of the crash have come out pretty quick because the aircraft landed in populated area, albeit in the middle of the river, and near a bridge, hence it attracted a lot of attention and enabled a quick rescue to be carried out. Below here is some that I’ve read from Kompas Newspaper and Jakarta Post.
Most passengers did not suspect an emergency when the impact occurred, and most were wearing their seatbelts. Some passengers have said that they thought it was a very rough landing. Only after the cabin crew scrambled to the exits and screamed “emergency! Emergency, please evacuate the aircraft” did they realize. Some realized when seeing a vast pool of water out of their windows when the aircraft stopped.
Another account however have indicated that at the last few moments, cabin crew were racing up and down the cabin screaming emergency and making sure that everyone was buckled in before sitting in their stations.
Some eyewitnesses have said the aircraft have been circling above around the crash site, and then suddenly dropped into the river. A wing hit a dyke/embankment before hitting the water, hence the damage. No damage to houses or rice fields were apparent.
One witness said “it came from the east, then turned back to the east suddenly, then turned away westwards before landing in the river. There was smoke coming out of the left engine.” Mulyono, the witness, was fishing in the river not far from the crash site.
The aircraft now floating slightly, with both wings declared structurally “snapped.”
It is suspected that the plane have suffered a dual flame-out, due to heavy water and icing. It appears the pilots were trying to relit the engines until the last moment. Re-lighting was not possible due to the wet air and low altitude.
Another theory is that is suffered from total hydraulic failure, but the pilot never issued a mayday, and this has been dismissed from the priority cause of the crash. Jogjakarta tower lost contact with the aircraft and APU was on. The pilot’s lack of communication could be attributed to an electronic malfunction possibly due to lightning strike.
A Pelita F28 behind the 737 as requested to hold at 12,000 feet over Solo, about 45 mins drive away from Jogjakarta. The F28 pilot have said that the weather was raining very heavily.
The local army commander in charge of the rescue operation regretted that people were just watching the crash and slowed down the rescue including evacuation of personal property. However, the logbook, FDR and CVR have been secured.
The locals however did manage to persuade passengers to jump off the aircraft into the river because it was only “knee deep”.
Capt. Abdul Rozak and FO Gunawan is reported to be in hospital but his location is kept secret in case some relatives would like to avenge the tragedy (the Approach ATCO on duty in Medan during the A300 crash a few years back also had the same treatment, and vigilantes did go after him). FA Santi Anggraini died after drowning in the river.
All injured have been taken to R. Koen Hospital in Solo, and or have been placed in Hotel Cakra in Solo, where Garuda have set up a crisis center.
So far I’m quite happy at the local press for identifying the aircraft correctly as 737-300, PK-GWA.
I was at CGK shortly about 30 mins after the crash. GA421 had already been declared “cancelled” It was pouring down with some lightning, so I decided to go spotting. However, I was there to pick up my friend flying on GA211, scheduled to go arrive about 1 hr before GA421. He told me that the wx in Solo (where he drove from earlier) was bloody awful with lightning and heavy downpour, Jogjakarta was also raining heavily. He boarded GA211 on time, and then the pax were told to go off the aircraft and returned to the terminal. They left around the same time as GA421’s scheduled flight. GA told them that they had to wait and pick up passengers from GA421 due to an operational problem. It was not until they landed in CGK that the real reason was disclosed to the pax.
The arrivals board in CGK T2 was blacked out. We had to monitor arrivals from small TV screens.
May Santi rest in Peace.
Gerry
