Ryanair runway excursion
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Where's the journos on this one then?
A Ryanair 737 being flown by the co-pilot with only 1hrs training on a PA28 skidded off the runway.. angry pax were heard screeming as they spilt their coffee at £1.50 a cup!
"Your'e fired, and no you don't get your £20K training cost back"
The Captain said as he pulled himself off the Hostee!
Don't lets get out of hand...
A Ryanair 737 being flown by the co-pilot with only 1hrs training on a PA28 skidded off the runway.. angry pax were heard screeming as they spilt their coffee at £1.50 a cup!
"Your'e fired, and no you don't get your £20K training cost back"
The Captain said as he pulled himself off the Hostee!
Don't lets get out of hand...
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I couldn't find anything on news sites, but flight FR045 from CRL to DUB was canx due tech*. Could be related or could be a coincidence.
*SOURCE: Flight Information at ryanair.com
*SOURCE: Flight Information at ryanair.com
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Well done to the Ryanair hacks that kept that one out of the papers! Look at the fuss that was caused when the Euroceltic F27 went off the runway at SXL. Looks like MOL has another one of his grubby little hands up the jacksy of Fleet Street!
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1310 LOC ? So that's 1210 UTC, right ?
Mmmh... I'm not absolutely sure but I think I heard about it before that. Considering their reputation of making very short turn-arounds, it wouldn't have made a big difference (timewise) if it had happened on the preceding inbound landing...
Disregard, it must be my Alzheimer !
So, did it happen on takeoff or landing ? Any detail ?
Mmmh... I'm not absolutely sure but I think I heard about it before that. Considering their reputation of making very short turn-arounds, it wouldn't have made a big difference (timewise) if it had happened on the preceding inbound landing...
Disregard, it must be my Alzheimer !
So, did it happen on takeoff or landing ? Any detail ?
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Many (Not All) of the directors of our beloved media companies have large holdings in Ryanair. MOL is a wise man in handing out options like candy at a birthday party a few years back when the 'competition' was a bit more arrogant in the press office.
It'll haunt them but who'll report that?
It'll haunt them but who'll report that?
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offcourse excursions are regularly reported here and don't make the papers. Comparison to SXL?? Did the 73 end up with its nose in the drink? Not from what I've heard.
offcourse excursions are regularly reported here and don't make the papers. Comparison to SXL?? Did the 73 end up with its nose in the drink? Not from what I've heard.
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Land ASAP,
Don't forget they are probably sh*gging their hosties too and thus no reporting. They also have share holdings in the Sun and as they advertise on one of FR their aircraft they will not report, actually when walking the dog last night I saw all the directors of our beloved Media Companies in the woods doing some strange voodoo ritual. Could not hear what they where saying as the there was a gathering of the "pilots who talks b*llocks" society had a field day as well...
Other than that I think it is just an incident like it can happen to all of us! The less the press write about it and talk about like: AIRPORT SHOCK HORROR AS PLANE MAKES A WRONG TURN. The next time it could be you...
Don't forget they are probably sh*gging their hosties too and thus no reporting. They also have share holdings in the Sun and as they advertise on one of FR their aircraft they will not report, actually when walking the dog last night I saw all the directors of our beloved Media Companies in the woods doing some strange voodoo ritual. Could not hear what they where saying as the there was a gathering of the "pilots who talks b*llocks" society had a field day as well...
Other than that I think it is just an incident like it can happen to all of us! The less the press write about it and talk about like: AIRPORT SHOCK HORROR AS PLANE MAKES A WRONG TURN. The next time it could be you...
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Mark,
Rarely have i seen a report here of an a/c off the runway that hasnt been reported in the news. Remember the time the EI MD-11 went off the runway at Shannon. No need to report it, but RTE sent a news crew down!! There should be the same rule for everyone. Ryanair are not exempt from these things. Maybe what Land ASAP says is true!
Rarely have i seen a report here of an a/c off the runway that hasnt been reported in the news. Remember the time the EI MD-11 went off the runway at Shannon. No need to report it, but RTE sent a news crew down!! There should be the same rule for everyone. Ryanair are not exempt from these things. Maybe what Land ASAP says is true!
airbourne:
I understood that the MD-11 which went off the runway at SNN was owned and operated by World Airways Inc and was in fact on wet lease to Aer Lingus for the summer. It certainly had an N registration on it when I saw it!
I understood that the MD-11 which went off the runway at SNN was owned and operated by World Airways Inc and was in fact on wet lease to Aer Lingus for the summer. It certainly had an N registration on it when I saw it!
What I hear is this; the aircraft had completed its landing run at Charleroi and was making a 180º turn on the runway in order to backtrack. Whoever was driving it either misjudged the turn (or perhaps had a nosewheel steering failure) with the result that the outside mainwheels came off the hard surface, plopped gracefully into the soft grass and bogged in.
Whilst this could possibly not be seen as an upward career move it is merely an embarrassment and certainly not a life-threatening near-disaster.
Such taxiing incidents are surprisingly common. In fact, I seem to recall a cahp in Britannia doing something very similar with a 767 at LGW not long ago.
Whilst this could possibly not be seen as an upward career move it is merely an embarrassment and certainly not a life-threatening near-disaster.
Such taxiing incidents are surprisingly common. In fact, I seem to recall a cahp in Britannia doing something very similar with a 767 at LGW not long ago.
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JW,
Yes, that EI a/c was from World airlines. Its the MD11 that they lease each summer. But whats the point? That a/c just ran off the runway, like the Ryanair jet. Im not spliting hairs with you but reporting points should be applied at all standards.
Yes, that EI a/c was from World airlines. Its the MD11 that they lease each summer. But whats the point? That a/c just ran off the runway, like the Ryanair jet. Im not spliting hairs with you but reporting points should be applied at all standards.
escortmk2:
So are you telling us that the aircraft went straight off the end of the runway without making a turn? If that is indeed the case then I am happy to apologise but that is not what my spy in Charleroi told me. (He does not work for Ryanair by the way)!
So are you telling us that the aircraft went straight off the end of the runway without making a turn? If that is indeed the case then I am happy to apologise but that is not what my spy in Charleroi told me. (He does not work for Ryanair by the way)!
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Runway Excursions -
- Does Ryanair have trend analysis FDR? No.
- Has the CAA given them another exemption for trend analysis FDR's installation, that is mandatory for all other established UK operators? Yes.
- If the crew in question were at the correct speed over the threshold with serviceable brakes, would the incident have occurred? No.
- If Ryanair had trend analysis FDR's would the crew have gone around knowing that if they had tried to land the FDR would have 'shopped them' to their safety department for excess speed during landing? Yes
- Do runway excursions pose a threat to passengers? Yes, particularly at airfields with less charitable Stop ends such as Funchal and Luton.
- Do the media overcook their reportage of other operators who they have a vested interest in casting slurs upon? Yes. The concorde rudder story was hardly dangerous compared to this.
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The FR aircraft did NOT I say again did NOT do an overrun, but took the turn a bit to wide when manoeuvring for backtrack. Small mistake, no harm done though...
These things happen almost every day.
God it makes me angry to see such crap on the forum by would-be pilots. It is also very childish to put the name of the commander on this forum.
FR's AOC and regs. are Irish, a JAA country.
Britain can stand on their head, but FR only needs to comply Irish and JAA law, NOT the CAA one.
I am involved in Safety, and I must say that the FR safety management and culture is far better than some British ones...
example: FR is by my knowledge the only airline who puts on the seats next to the emergency exits other coloured headrest covers. Well done FR.
I do not work for FR, nor do I plan to in the near future, but as a commercial pilot, I do feel obliged to put some things straight here and uphold our profesionalism.
Goodnight,
Despegue
These things happen almost every day.
God it makes me angry to see such crap on the forum by would-be pilots. It is also very childish to put the name of the commander on this forum.
FR's AOC and regs. are Irish, a JAA country.
Britain can stand on their head, but FR only needs to comply Irish and JAA law, NOT the CAA one.
I am involved in Safety, and I must say that the FR safety management and culture is far better than some British ones...
example: FR is by my knowledge the only airline who puts on the seats next to the emergency exits other coloured headrest covers. Well done FR.
I do not work for FR, nor do I plan to in the near future, but as a commercial pilot, I do feel obliged to put some things straight here and uphold our profesionalism.
Goodnight,
Despegue
Last edited by Sick Squid; 7th Dec 2002 at 16:08.