Do we have too many SLF/Pax on this forum now??
I don't tend to post much, especially as my employer made it quite clear they do not want us to post about our work in public.
But I treat every post as an opportunity to learn and filtering out the dross from the informative posts isn't difficult. Everyone has a valid chance to speak and all opinions should be judged on their own merits.
Granted I'm no professional pilot and my feet are firmly planted on the ground (if you include staging and other platforms around an aircraft as on the ground still).
But I treat every post as an opportunity to learn and filtering out the dross from the informative posts isn't difficult. Everyone has a valid chance to speak and all opinions should be judged on their own merits.
Granted I'm no professional pilot and my feet are firmly planted on the ground (if you include staging and other platforms around an aircraft as on the ground still).
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This is another hamster wheel topic which will only polarise opinion.
I am interested in the view that SLF are fine, but the more older professionals are a pain with their input. I turn 65 next week and can therefore no longer fly commercially, but will continue privately. When should I be banned from posting as I obviously will quickly turn senile? Subjects like “Gaining a RAF Pilots Brevet in WW2” would therefore need to be removed as they are probably rubbish of no interest to the younger member…..
We all have a right to read or post as we feel is appropriate, that is except those that spell hangar with an e. If you don’t like a post, move on.
Now off to post on Professional Surgeons.com with my suggestions for that tricky op they are discussing.
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I am interested in the view that SLF are fine, but the more older professionals are a pain with their input. I turn 65 next week and can therefore no longer fly commercially, but will continue privately. When should I be banned from posting as I obviously will quickly turn senile? Subjects like “Gaining a RAF Pilots Brevet in WW2” would therefore need to be removed as they are probably rubbish of no interest to the younger member…..
We all have a right to read or post as we feel is appropriate, that is except those that spell hangar with an e. If you don’t like a post, move on.
Now off to post on Professional Surgeons.com with my suggestions for that tricky op they are discussing.
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ItsonlyMeagain. Plurry young jock. 77 and still enjoying the stuff on the various forums. Twenty years since I last flew, but there are things that never change. I'll post if relevant; otherwise shut up.
I'm told one advantage of light travelling faster than sound. You can look intelligent...until people hear what you are saying.
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I'm told one advantage of light travelling faster than sound. You can look intelligent...until people hear what you are saying.
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Well, yes, if it's not based on absolute nonsense! There's a difference between differing but qualified and educated opinions and spouting off about something the person obviously has no knowledge or understanding of.
SLF here, never ever commented on a thread before! I'm here as an enthusiast to read the informed opinions of the professionals and I appreciate being allowed to be here for that purpose. I would never wade in with an uninformed opinion hence I have never commented before on anything and I do find there is a lot of nonsense to sort through, though it's usually possible to tell which comments are made by people who know what they are talking about who is speculating. A lot of people make it known if they are speaking from a point of experience or not so maybe people could be encouraged to state this when commenting and could perhaps be discouraged from having too much to say when they don't have the expertise to comment?
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I think the perfect compromise is the comment from SLF Steve… Professional Pilots and other Air Transport related professionals can establish credentials and post. Those persons with a passion for flying and an interest in all mechanical in the sky… real only.
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In another IB thread I subscribe to, a small cohort of long standing members decided, for some reason, to adopt a policy of freezing out new members (I know this because they asked me to join an alternative forum, which I did, very briefly). Unfortunately they have been successful, strangely with the apparent acquiescence of the site leads. They are currently seemingly content, however that forum is almost dead.
Yes, the circumstances are different and I don't believe for a minute that Pprune would go that way, however...
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Non-flying retired mechanical engineer who took hang gliding lessons a very long time ago....
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not on someone’s private website.
Is it a "private" website as such these days? Genuine question.
Is it a "private" website as such these days? Genuine question.
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Do we have too many SLF/Pax on this forum now??
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Do we have too many SLF/Pax on this forum now??
May it please the court:
SLF here, never ever commented on a thread before! I'm here as an enthusiast to read the informed opinions of the professionals and I appreciate being allowed to be here for that purpose. I would never wade in with an uninformed opinion hence I have never commented before on anything and I do find there is a lot of nonsense to sort through, though it's usually possible to tell which comments are made by people who know what they are talking about who is speculating. A lot of people make it known if they are speaking from a point of experience or not so maybe people could be encouraged to state this when commenting and could perhaps be discouraged from having too much to say when they don't have the expertise to comment?
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SLF here, but also a professional engineer who has worked on engines and airframes on both civil and military aircraft. I appreciate not just pilot's perspectives, but also others in the aerospace domain, maintenance, ATC, cabin crew, engineers etc.
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) appearing on my FB Account - posts describing various military ships, subs and aircraft. Now, being ex-Mil and ex-aviation, that doesn't surprise me as FB can easily work out my background from some of the Groups I follow.These "articles" that have started appearing on my Feed are generally well written in style - but are utter rubbish in content with the article miss-describing the topic. They often link correct individual facts but in an incorrect way resulting in rubbish. In addition there are often related but incorrect pictures in support. I did some digging as what seemed to be an isolated event has now turned into a gush if not a full-scale flood. Fairly quickly I concluded that such articles are AI generated.
Indeed, a report by Stanford Uni (18 Mar 2024) on AI Generated images (but equally applicable to entire articles) included the conclusion that "..... AI-generated images are shown on the Facebook Feed to users who do not follow the Pages. ........................................ Comments on the AI-generated images suggest many users are unaware of the synthetic origin of the images, though a subset of users post comments or infographics alerting others. The fact that viewers are deceived by these images highlights the importance of labeling and additional transparency measures moving forward.". Just substitute "article" for "image" and that's what I am being flooded with.
Of course, you could say "Well, that's the 'wild-west' of Facebook" but what's to stop H 'n' H linking in his AI authoring tool, of which there are quite a few, to PPRuNe, pressing "crawl and generate comments" and then siting back with a coffee as it reads the various threads and then gets "creating"? In fact, are you sure H 'n' H is actually a real person ......... and not a figment of some rampant AI algorithms?
I add this slightly off-topic comment simply to make the observation that, today, anything on the WWW is susceptible to, not just the "ill-informed unwashed" commenting, but from a much more sinister form of dis-information which is starting to appear out there on the WWW. A capability which was once the sole preserve of Government Agencies is available to, well, anyone who cares to set up an account on an AI authoring tool.
DISCLAIMER For the avoidance of any doubt, the comment above was manually generated by H 'n' H typing on his keyboard! Honest! Cheers, Bot!
Too many SLF/Pax: Hmmm, the complaint is about the quality of the postings.
Let me tell you, that often the "opinion" of Professional Pilots is often worse than what informed non-Professional Pilots write on PP.
To the level, that I just give up, discussing an item any further. In real life, I am too busy to deal with people who have no (longer ?) an open view too reality. So many "Pro-flying" people keep sitting on their faulty ancient knowledge.
That said, I think, the postings from those non-Pros though in the known with the subjects they are writing about are much, much better. They have a real message to bring. "Professional Pilots" do disappoint me constantly with that.
Let me tell you, that often the "opinion" of Professional Pilots is often worse than what informed non-Professional Pilots write on PP.
To the level, that I just give up, discussing an item any further. In real life, I am too busy to deal with people who have no (longer ?) an open view too reality. So many "Pro-flying" people keep sitting on their faulty ancient knowledge.
That said, I think, the postings from those non-Pros though in the known with the subjects they are writing about are much, much better. They have a real message to bring. "Professional Pilots" do disappoint me constantly with that.
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However, it’s down to copyright, libel laws and on a forum like this and others, the owners/publishers rules as to if that opinion will be allowed to be published, they retain the editorial control, and content. Because that’s what we do when we write on here, we digitally create content which is published by the platform owners. Hence the warnings at the top of every page.