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Old 17th Apr 2024, 21:10
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Rarely done with the compressors compressing though.
only on a Dry Motor.. 😆
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 15:31
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Originally Posted by Fursty Ferret
Rarely done with the compressors compressing though.
Back in the 1980s I remember Avon gas turbines (in use for power generation offshore) being washed online with crushed nutshells or rice husks. But the industrial Avons were probably not treated as kindly as the aviation versions. They did go through a phase of blowing the exhaust stacks off the side of the platform when the fuel gas knockout pots failed to stop lighter gases getting through...temporary flameout with gas generator still spinning, until gas in combustion cans reached explosive limit and....BOOM!!!! Made a right mess of the power turbine blades too...
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 07:42
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Dubai is one of the most efficient cities on planet earth and the authorities have dealt with very well indeed. Europe would have been in a real pickle with such rain
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Dubai is one of the most efficient cities on planet earth and the authorities have dealt with very well indeed. Europe would have been in a real pickle with such rain
Because Europe is one country with one climate zone and one geology 🙄
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 11:10
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Originally Posted by SunnyTheSemen
Dubai is one of the most efficient cities on planet earth and the authorities have dealt with very well indeed. Europe would have been in a real pickle with such rain
I almost fell off my chair reading this. I'm guessing you've never actually been to Dubai
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 11:13
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I almost fell off my chair reading this. I'm guessing you've never actually been to Dubai
I had a chuckle too.
I think they singed up to Pprune just so they could post that.
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 12:09
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Dubai is a castle built upon the sand; I think Percy Bysshe Shelley nailed it with his verse Ozymandias about once magnificent structures which became faded glories in the desert.



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Old 19th Apr 2024, 12:15
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Originally Posted by Akrotiri bad boy
Dubai is a castle built upon the sand; I think Percy Bysshe Shelley nailed it with his verse Ozymandias about once magnificent structures which became faded glories in the desert.
Archeologists will one day shake their heads when examining the ruins of Dubai. 😉
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 13:05
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Originally Posted by SunnyTheSemen
Dubai is one of the most efficient cities on planet earth and the authorities have dealt with very well indeed. Europe would have been in a real pickle with such rain
Emirates would appear not to agree with you. Now in day 4 of complete operational chaos, seemingly with no end in sight.
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 14:11
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We just had a generic email from Travelbag (owned by Emirates, i believe) - not that we have a booking (sadly) - that check-in has been closed for anyone preparing to travel to or via Dubai until midnight tonight. Presumably, this is to give them some headroom to manage the number of people stuck at the other end.

One might argue that the trouble with hubs, and an airline that is immensely popular operating basically full flights to and from said hub, is that when something big goes wrong its incredibly difficult to sort it out without closing everything down and starting again.
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 15:46
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Kish Island years ago….it rains briefly but heavily for ten minutes…terminal leaks like a sieve. Drainage on runways, taxiways and apron…slim to nil. Condition frantic declared.
WX now CAVU.
Tower “You can not land…the runways are flooded!”

Me: “You do realize that I’m flying a helicopter?”

Long, long pause.

Tower: “You are cleared to land..at your own discretion but ..we will not be responsible!”

It was pretty hairy but I managed to land safely…close call! LOL.
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Old 19th Apr 2024, 16:56
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I meant to post earlier, but was airborne traveling back the UK via another of the Gulf States.

Having spent many years working on water and sewage projects in this part of the world, the storms are extremely difficult to manage. The main problem is the lack of rainfall for 99% of the year but plenty of airborne sand and dust accumulating in the pipes & culverts. When the rain finally arrives - often in torrential downpours of more than 75mm/hour intensity - the accumulated sand & dirt are swept into the pumps. As you might image Storm pumps are robustly built but still unable to cope...


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Old 19th Apr 2024, 17:29
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There may well be a decent run of Spring Salmon in some of those bigger pools. Plenty of surface fly hatches, always present in the middle east, should assist. Opportunities for careful roll casting off the jetties or catering trucks will be apparent. Catch and release policy is mandatory. You cannot be sure what the Salmon will have been eating.
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Old 20th Apr 2024, 02:10
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DBX currently not accepting transit passengers as the transit lounge has been damaged by floodwaters. It is necessary to enter the country and then leave again on a flight to your ultimate destination. This may necessitate an overnight stay and you will need a visa.

And you will only discover all this when you go to check in.

How do I know this? From recent bitter personal experience.
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 08:14
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Originally Posted by SunnyTheSemen
Dubai is one of the most efficient cities on planet earth and the authorities have dealt with very well indeed. Europe would have been in a real pickle with such rain
Europe is so efficient that their drains have pipes in them to take away the water. Europe would not have seeded a pre-existing storm so would not have created the disaster in the first place. Who is paying the bill for that mistake ?
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 09:02
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The cloud seeding story is bull sheet!
By seeding you can't create clouds containing water worth 1 year of rain. you can just make existing clouds start to rain earlier.

Reason is more heat, more water evaporate over oceans, creating ever larger rainfall. Not sure, but that one was related to unusual many storm cells coming in from northwest?
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 09:49
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More cloud seeding = more condensation nuclei = more rain = more release of latent heat = more convection = more condensation = more release of latent heat......... etc. etc. etc.

The question is of the planned 300 days of seeding in 2024, was any done in relation to that weather system ? The media appear to have gone into full reversal.
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 10:42
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Dubai does have heavy rainfall periodically and I have seen the under passes flooded and cars floating around bumping into the underside of over bridges. The problem is, as other have posted, that the ever present sand blocks the drains and unless they are cleared out which they are not, then when the deluge comes you end up with the flooding witnessed this week. However I have to say the UK is equally bad at this if you look at the flooding that occurs on certain sections of our roads and motorways, caused by the same issue, and we have no excuse as we do get rain often, but just seem inept at maintaining things these days.

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Old 21st Apr 2024, 11:47
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I messaged our friend who we stay with on the Palm. The drains are just chambers with no pipe to take the water away. No wonder the sand is never emptied.

At least our drains are connected to the sewers. The Burj Khalifa relies on a fleet of trucks to take away the effluent despite being in the middle of the developed zone. I wonder how they are coping if the trucks could not get in or out ?
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 11:53
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At least our drains are connected to the sewers. The Burj Khalifa relies on a fleet of trucks to take away the effluent despite being in the middle of the developed zone.
This appears to be an urban legend, see for instance the well-documented discussion here.
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